Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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omegalamba7xl9
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Wtf Did Iran get hold of Epstein documents too??? Lol
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Vietnam was an unpopular war. Americans were drafted to fight a war for empire they wanted no part of...
The loss of life therefore was an added sore that increased the pain manifold. Many of today's elites dodged the draft including the orange clown sitting there right with another unpopular war.
I had direct conversations with parents who had their children active duty and were voting Trump because he said no more wars and they believed him...
So, NO AMERICAN wants to go fight a war for the empire, send their children, spouses or parents to far off corners of the world while orange manipulates the markets and makes a quick buck out of their collective effort.
The chain of command drops the morality and ones ordered to perform a "legal" order are supposed to perform it like a machine... the collective conscience dies in such formation. Morale stays low even being on the winning side... the commanders and Chaplins call on the higher powers and concocted narratives to keep men fighting.
It is therefore reduced... more machine and software... to drop the humanity from decision making in the hands of manipulators only interested in numbers. It becomes sterile... it is sterile.
Something someone sitting in zion can switch on and off without merit or human input.
If men don't stop it then a minority with no qualms about the death and destruction of larger human body will only perpetrate more of it... on wholesale with no qualms, no remorse!
Shags101
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People be reading my posts
Immortals
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This is not true actually. The source is Israeli channel 12 news and by injecting the “old” 15 point plan they are cleverly trying to influence whatever negotiations are on going by making that the BASE STARTING POINT so that any concessions by the Americans makes the Americans look reasonable and the deal better than it is.
We don’t actually know what the Americans have presented to iran, but we do know he leaked the “Ayatollah and I will manage the strait”. So it appears the real deal being negotiated is not the old one
It’s all a form of elaborate gamesmanship and psycho ops.
Shags101
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So it’s now a pattern the ones that are getting intercepted it’ seems to be headed to high value targets that they can’t let Iran destroy so if they have to sacrifice large parts of the country they are going to take that risk
Master Chief
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Shags101
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Whatever they hit made a bugger than usual fireball
Meengla
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I don't know whether this going to be a meeting between the Americans and the Iranians by the coming weekend or not in Islamabad but the 15 American Points, which Pakistan's Asma Shirazi talked about yesterday, are now on NY Times. Iran has 6 Points demand.
The Israelis are the spoilers as the cowards don't want the Americans to leave fighting and dying for Israel.
Plus other related news at: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/24/world/iran-war-trump-oil [Behind paywall].
The United States has sent Iran a 15-point plan to end the war in the Middle East, according to two officials briefed on the diplomacy, reflecting the Trump administration’s eagerness to find an offramp from the conflict as it grapples with its economic fallout.
It was unclear how widely the plan, delivered by way of Pakistan, had been shared among Iranian officials and whether Iran was likely to accept it as a basis for negotiations. Nor was it clear whether Israel, which has been bombing Iran together with the United States, was on board with the proposal.
But the delivery of the plan showed that the administration was ramping up efforts to conclude a war, now in its fourth week, that has drawn in several other countries.
The New York Times did not see a copy of the plan, but the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, shared some of its broad outlines, saying that it addresses Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs.
Israel and the United States have targeted Iran’s ballistic missiles, launchers and production facilities, and its nuclear program in the bombing campaign that began on Feb. 28. American and Israeli leaders have vowed never to allow Iran to possess a nuclear weapon.
But Iran has continued to fire missiles at Israel and neighboring Arab countries and still holds 440 kilograms of highly enriched uranium in its territory.
The plan also discusses maritime routes, one of the officials said. Since the beginning of the war, Iran has effectively blocked most Western ships from safely passing through the Strait of Hormuz, the strategic waterway in and out of the Persian Gulf, cutting the global supply of oil and natural gas, and sending the prices soaring.
For now, there is no indication that the war will let up imminently; Israeli officials have said they expect it to continue for weeks. In a statement, Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, acknowledged diplomacy was underway, but said, “As President Trump and his negotiators explore this newfound possibility of diplomacy, Operation Epic Fury continues unabated to achieve the military objectives laid out by the commander inchief and the Pentagon.”
Pakistan’s army chief, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, has emerged as the key interlocutor between the United States and Iran, with Egypt and Turkey encouraging the Iranians to engage constructively, the officials added. Field Marshal Munir is believed to maintain close ties to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, putting him in a position to pass messages between the warring sides, they said.
The Israelis are the spoilers as the cowards don't want the Americans to leave fighting and dying for Israel.
Plus other related news at: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/24/world/iran-war-trump-oil [Behind paywall].
The United States has sent Iran a 15-point plan to end the war in the Middle East, according to two officials briefed on the diplomacy, reflecting the Trump administration’s eagerness to find an offramp from the conflict as it grapples with its economic fallout.
It was unclear how widely the plan, delivered by way of Pakistan, had been shared among Iranian officials and whether Iran was likely to accept it as a basis for negotiations. Nor was it clear whether Israel, which has been bombing Iran together with the United States, was on board with the proposal.
But the delivery of the plan showed that the administration was ramping up efforts to conclude a war, now in its fourth week, that has drawn in several other countries.
The New York Times did not see a copy of the plan, but the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, shared some of its broad outlines, saying that it addresses Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs.
Israel and the United States have targeted Iran’s ballistic missiles, launchers and production facilities, and its nuclear program in the bombing campaign that began on Feb. 28. American and Israeli leaders have vowed never to allow Iran to possess a nuclear weapon.
But Iran has continued to fire missiles at Israel and neighboring Arab countries and still holds 440 kilograms of highly enriched uranium in its territory.
The plan also discusses maritime routes, one of the officials said. Since the beginning of the war, Iran has effectively blocked most Western ships from safely passing through the Strait of Hormuz, the strategic waterway in and out of the Persian Gulf, cutting the global supply of oil and natural gas, and sending the prices soaring.
For now, there is no indication that the war will let up imminently; Israeli officials have said they expect it to continue for weeks. In a statement, Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, acknowledged diplomacy was underway, but said, “As President Trump and his negotiators explore this newfound possibility of diplomacy, Operation Epic Fury continues unabated to achieve the military objectives laid out by the commander inchief and the Pentagon.”
Pakistan’s army chief, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, has emerged as the key interlocutor between the United States and Iran, with Egypt and Turkey encouraging the Iranians to engage constructively, the officials added. Field Marshal Munir is believed to maintain close ties to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, putting him in a position to pass messages between the warring sides, they said.
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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China's interest is only China!
For that you'll have to understand their philosophy "Five principles of peaceful coexistence"...
Unless core Chinese interests are directly threatened or sabotaged, China will not bite.
For the regional stability it has to be Pakistan, Türkiye, Egypt, Iran and Saudi Arabia setting the core regional security and economic architecture and forever bar any foreign intervention in the region. The mechanisms should be set forth to resolve disputes and smaller statelets cut down to size... they can exist but not on the backs of foreign patronage.
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Shags101
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No injuries or direct impacts reported after latest Iranian ballistic missile attack
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www.timesofisrael.com
albritani
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Well those cluster bomblets seem to do the damage of a RPG, not really troubling. Might take a few civilians out but from what I've seen they struggle to do that even when metres away.
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