Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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So, I just returned.

This USN F/A-18 (Super Hornet)...

Q. Was it hit like the F-35 & made it back..., or was it (actually) shot down ?
 
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From the outset, the strategy was clearly built around triggering unrest inside Iran. It wasn’t subtle. Trump and Netanyahu said it openly, repeatedly addressing Iranians and urging them to rise up.

The operational side reflected the same logic. The targeting wasn’t random. Strikes on police stations and checkpoints, the assassinations of figures like Larijani and the Basij commander on Chaharshanbeh Souri, and coordinated messaging with Reza Pahlavi all pointed to a single objective: spark internal upheaval.

When that didn’t materialize, the line shifted to “it will come after the war.” Now it’s being reframed as Trump opposing it altogether.

A core assumption failed, and it’s now being rewritten in real time to cover for it.
 
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Yah. 91 was like $2.42 two weeks ago today it's like $3.35 . Everyday we see price increase of 5-10 cents twice a day. It's getting out of hand.
 
Maea said:
In less then a week we are about to witness jews aided by americans trying to wage a holy war, like crusades, on a muslim nation supported by other "muslim" nations.

People can say whatever they want, but the fact is that this war is driven by religious extremism.
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I have to agree with this bleak assessment, insofar as Israeli objectives are - and arguably always have been - religiously motivated by jewish eschatology.

The "crusades" aspect is the reverse side of the same coin, struck in its totality by the most omnipotent and overseeing foundry of Zion.
 
Persian Gulf said:
From the outset, the strategy was clearly built around triggering unrest inside Iran. It wasn’t subtle. Trump and Netanyahu said it openly, repeatedly addressing Iranians and urging them to rise up.

The operational side reflected the same logic. The targeting wasn’t random. Strikes on police stations and checkpoints, the assassinations of figures like Larijani and the Basij commander on Chaharshanbeh Souri, and coordinated messaging with Reza Pahlavi all pointed to a single objective: spark internal upheaval.

When that didn’t materialize, the line shifted to “it will come after the war.” Now it’s being reframed as Trump opposing it altogether.

A core assumption failed, and it’s now being rewritten in real time to cover for it.
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Aptly worded analysis friend. We indeed have been having hints of a blame-game emerging between the lines, first when Trump a week or so back said on stage "It was Rubio and then Jared, they told me their feeling was that an attack by Iran on the whole region was imminent", then yesterday he pointed at Hegseth at some event saying "right Pete" prompting him to confirm he was the one who insisted the most on striking and other such bull.

My worry is that we're clearly at a juncture of this war, where things can either gradually de-escalate or at the contrary massively escalate, turn into a quagmire, as the current MEU+airborne deployment will inevitably run into problems, suffer repeated casualties by way of mines, ambushes, FPV drones, and of course evidently SRBMs and even Grad-level rocket strikes, which will then prompt Trump to send in even more and bomb more, and then you have your escalation trap for months, possibly more. It will seal the rest of his presidency, but who cares about his personal demise if it drags the whole of Iran down to hell with him ?

Trita PArsi, from the Quincy INstitute, a quite respected a well-known analysts with many intervention since the start of the fake negotiations in January, and that I find extremely adept at anticipating and analysing a multitude of scenarios per event, has also rightfully pointed at some elements within the IRGC being tempted to overplay their hand as well.

For now, both sides' hardliners seem in control, question is : when will some cool-headed people finally manage to talk while bypassing the hot ones on both sides ?
 
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Approaching 8 hours of no Iranian missile strikes to Israel after a 8 waves were sent from midnight local time to 4 pm eastern.

Either Israel had some success thwarting a wave or two or Iran is repositioning.

Israel waves last few days:
Sunday: Iran fired 10+ waves
Monday: Iran fired only 5 waves
Tuesday (yesterday): 16 waves!
Today: 8 waves

It’s also been relatively quiet on the Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia front as well. UAE reported no Iranian BMs for the first time since the early days of the war.
 
Gryzor said:
Trita PArsi, from the Quincy INstitute, a quite respected a well-known analysts with many intervention since the start of the fake negotiations in January, and that I find extremely adept at anticipating and analysing a multitude of scenarios per event, has also rightfully pointed at some elements within the IRGC being tempted to overplay their hand as well.
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In your opinion, what has IRGC done so far to overplay their hand?
 
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