Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Irfan Baloch said:
what is their significance? Israel / AMericans hit key Industrial complex of Iran and the only way to deter them or respond in kind is to hit Israel on its critical infrastructure.
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Iran also hit Haifa Bazan refinery and had a near miss in the power plant in Hadera
 
Aggregate said:
Iran is a single country under 40 years of sanctions, fighting against a colaition of about 10 countries, headed by a global superpower. Its unfair to expect Iran to match up with them while fighting at 11 fronts with no support.

Still though, Iran uses heavy ones on military targets, which are mostly censored. The impacts from cluster munitions look small individually but add up to a lot if you consider how many of them rain down over a large area.

Sure, the optics aren't the same as a huge US funded weapon falling at a single place, but Iran's strategy is to counter air defenses and show the israeli public what a war feels like. So that the israeli public force that f**** Nethanyahu to stop. There is no other way to end it and this strategy is having its effects with every passing day.
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yes , only the ordinary Israeli public has the power to end this war through forcing the goverment to call off this war. because Americans have no power in front of Natanyahu.
 
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Eşbah said:
BREAKING NEWS —

TRUMP: I THOUGHT TURKEY WAS FANTASTIC. TREMENDOUS SUPPORT CAME FROM COUNTRIES NOT IN THE REGION, BUT THEY WERE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE.

I THOUGHT TURKEY WAS FANTASTIC, ACTUALLY IT WAS WONDERFUL.

THEY STAYED OUTSIDE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED FROM THEM.(ERDOGAN) IS A GREAT LEADER. (ERDOGAN) IS A GREAT LEADER.

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Trump is admitting that Erdoğan didn’t support his war on Iran, yet, he's absolutely fascinated by him.

How come the Gulf leadership can't create an image like this in Trump's weird and twisted perception of reality?
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May be Erdogan is secretly supporting Trump's war? Just like Erdogan's role with Israel, supplies 60% of Israel oil and at same time does anti-Israel drama for public consumption.
 
PakFactor said:
As representatives of a state, one would expect a certain sense of propriety and decorum. The individual in office represents the citizenry under him; then people wonder why the country isn't taken seriously and treated as a doorstop.
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Yes, propriety and decorum relative to an era of old.

Rule books are being thrown into the bin, bigger nations have to posture proportionate to their threat perception, signalling by the book behavior when you reside in the middle of geopolitical badlands could signal meekness to your enemies and your allies

Also look around, Russia USA Israel Turkey all have senior politicians that mouth off,


Even laser eyes could not keep his mental balance, now he looks weak because he always tried to look in control and composed before,
 
Falcon29 said:
Intel manufacturing site in Kiryat Gat

Why don't Iran target it in response to attacks on its steel factories ?

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The missile cities are under fire it takes time to re open tunnels. This is why I wanted to spend a lot more on air defense as Iran’s air defense system were not saturated enough given the size of Iran and their opponents.
 
URGENT | Leak of the proposed agreement points between the two parties: The United States demands from Iran the following:
- Dismantling Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan
- Permanently halting uranium enrichment. And handing over all uranium to the International Atomic Energy Agency
- Limiting the range and quantity of ballistic missiles- Completely severing ties with Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas
- Fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz. Now.
- A ceasefire for 30 days starting immediately
In return, the United States will work to ease sanctions and enable the possibility of civilian nuclear cooperation.

Iran demands from the United States the following:
- Immediately halting all strikes and assassinations
- Providing binding guarantees against launching any further attacks
- Paying war reparations
- Recognizing Iran's sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz
- No interference with the nuclear program, missiles, or proxies. All options are on the table
- Withdrawing U.S. bases from the region
- Stopping hostile actions against Iran and Hezbollah
- Lifting sanctions

These two sides describe two entirely different wars; The United States wants to weaken Iran. And Iran wants the United States to leave and foot the bill for the visit.

Source: New York Times, The Guardian

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r3alist said:
Yes, propriety and decorum relative to an era of old.

Rule books are being thrown into the bin, bigger nations have to posture proportionate to their threat perception, signalling by the book behavior when you reside in the middle of geopolitical badlands could signal meekness to your enemies and your allies

Also look around, Russia USA Israel Turkey all have senior politicians that mouth off,


Even laser eyes could not keep his mental balance, now he looks weak because he always tried to look in control and composed before,
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That's the paper tiger trap, if you’re constantly mouthing off, it tells your actual leverage is failing. Those nations you mentioned, excluding the United States, Russia, and Turkey, are all facing crises at home in terms of economics, international sanctions, and other strife’s. It brings no value to their table.

To establish and maintain that posture and throw the book in the bin, you need economic and instructional might, lest you end up looking like a liability and unstable, it can come back to damage the nation. You need leverage which you do not have.

In the end, a dog barking looks natural, but a cat trying to bark like a dog just looks lost.
 
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IRGC CLAIM 6 US COMBAT VESSELS STRUCK!!!

IRGC: 84th wave continues

"The sinking of tactical vessels and the killing of a large number of American terrorists"

— Public Relations of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC):

"Continuing the 84th wave of Operation True Promise 4 under the blessed code "Ya Man Huwa Shadid al-Iqab" (O He Who is Severe in Punishment) and dedicated to the artists and celebrities who support the Revolution on these nights, the IRGC Navy, in a combined attack, targeted Zionist-American terrorists in the port of Al-Shuyukh and the coasts and port of Dubai, precisely striking depressed American soldiers and their tactical equipment.

— In this operation, which was carried out using ballistic and cruise missiles of the Qadr-380 type, six American LCU (Landing Craft Utility) combat vessels in the port of "Al-Shuyukh" were hit. According to field reports, three of these combat vessels sank after being hit, and the remaining are burning.

— Simultaneously, a drone operation was carried out against the gathering centers of American terrorist officers of the drone unit on the coast and one of the hotels in Dubai, using destructive drones, and these centers were precisely struck.

➡️During this operation, in addition to the sinking of tactical vessels, a large number of American terrorists were also killed. As we have said before, wherever you go, we will come after you; you will be miserable.

➡️The IRGC Navy, with God's permission, with full dominance and awareness, will respond decisively to the enemy's mischief."

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black_cats said:
IRGC CLAIM 6 US COMBAT VESSELS STRUCK!!!

IRGC: 84th wave continues

"The sinking of tactical vessels and the killing of a large number of American terrorists"

— Public Relations of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC):

"Continuing the 84th wave of Operation True Promise 4 under the blessed code "Ya Man Huwa Shadid al-Iqab" (O He Who is Severe in Punishment) and dedicated to the artists and celebrities who support the Revolution on these nights, the IRGC Navy, in a combined attack, targeted Zionist-American terrorists in the port of Al-Shuyukh and the coasts and port of Dubai, precisely striking depressed American soldiers and their tactical equipment.

— In this operation, which was carried out using ballistic and cruise missiles of the Qadr-380 type, six American LCU (Landing Craft Utility) combat vessels in the port of "Al-Shuyukh" were hit. According to field reports, three of these combat vessels sank after being hit, and the remaining are burning.

— Simultaneously, a drone operation was carried out against the gathering centers of American terrorist officers of the drone unit on the coast and one of the hotels in Dubai, using destructive drones, and these centers were precisely struck.

➡️During this operation, in addition to the sinking of tactical vessels, a large number of American terrorists were also killed. As we have said before, wherever you go, we will come after you; you will be miserable.

➡️The IRGC Navy, with God's permission, with full dominance and awareness, will respond decisively to the enemy's mischief."

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I hope it is true
 
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