Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran already hit:

- Haifa oil refinery
- Dimona residential area for key nuclear workers
- chemical facilities in Negev

+ near miss near power plant in Hadera.

with Israel's air defences finally starting to show signs of depletion, we can expect 1-3 missile impacts in Israel per day. with time, more important targets will be hit.
They’re getting closer and closer the hits are coming in Israelis aren’t even hiding the damage or impacts anymore minus military sites that we will have to find out about much later
 
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even in Venezuela the raid lasted only a few hours and they almost lost a helicopter and 7 US troops were injured ... so a days long op in central Iran? surely not.

The problem I have with this concept is the digging part.

Are they gonna be hauling bulldozers and excavators with their helicopters deep into Iran to open up the entrances up?
 
11:00. Apparently the Gulf GCC Patriot Missile crew have left their battery systems on automatic and are not manually Manning them. The Patriots are auto shooting ridiculous numbers of interceptors to bring down Iranian decoys. Thereby depletion the GCC defense.

GCC military personnel are dumb doorknobs. Pathetic.

Ukranian contractors were shocked to hear that the GCC wackos were shooting on average 8 interceptors worth $3Million each at every Iranian $20k drone!!! 😂

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Which war did Obama start? I can't remember.
I mean the US was involved in Syria and lots of other places, but none of them were actual wars like this, or even remotely close to this scale.

This war has been the largest US war since the Iraq war, and if a ground invasion starts, it may be comparable to the Vietnam War.

Obama instead expanded the existing. He surged both Iraq and Afghanistan... initiated several color revolutions... laid foundation for what is happening right now... a direct progression of seeds sown back then... including Ukraine.
 
You could say that the US "invaded" Pakistan via the bin Laden raid in Abbotabad. Though many of us speculated it was a set up to help Obama's re-election campaign.
Hmm... I'd rather prefer to think of it as "a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty" than an invasion. The US never meant to stay there and take control of Pakistan's territory. That's like the essence of an invasion in my opinion; to stay there and control the invaded land.

And how long did it last? About a day, if I remember correctly.
 
That's not the same a formal declaration of war.
Hmm, the 1991 Gulf War was declared with
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Pub. L. 102–1) or Joint Resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (official title), was the United States Congress's January 14, 1991, authorization of the use of U.S. military force in the Gulf War.

The 2003 Iraq War was declared with
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, informally known as the Iraq Resolution, was a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No. 107-243, authorizing the use of the United States Armed Forces against Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist Iraqi government in what would be known as Operation Iraqi Freedom

These seem to be the language used to declare war formally by Congress.
 
Obama instead expanded the existing. He surged both Iraq and Afghanistan... initiated several color revolutions... laid foundation for what is happening right now... a direct progression of seeds sown back then... including Ukraine.
The overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya set the stage for Hillary's thinking that is she were to become President, a war with Iran would have happened then and not now. She was hell-bent on the idea and with Maverick (John McCain) whispering in her ear, she was even more confident of the idea.
 
Obama instead expanded the existing. He surged both Iraq and Afghanistan... initiated several color revolutions... laid foundation for what is happening right now... a direct progression of seeds sown back then... including Ukraine.
In cases like Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, and a couple of other states, the US has always been following a bi-partisan long-term strategy. Obama was no exception to this.

However, I'm sure you understand my point when I say that Obama did not start an all-out war.

The CIA excels at color revolutions. It's like their main expertise when it comes to global security. That's nothing new. And the NSA spies on all of us. Nothing new there either.
 
🚨⚡️ BREAKING |

ERDOGAN Threatens to Join War on Iran’s Side! Turkey Warns US & Israel: "We Will Attack Like We Did in Syria!" 🇹🇷🇮🇷🇺🇸

Turkey has issued a serious warning to the United States, Iraq and Kurdish forces that it will take direct military action if Kurdish organizations are involved in operations against Iran, the information portal "Türkiye" reports.

According to information obtained by Ankara, with the beginning of the attacks on Iran, the Israeli intelligence service Mossad tried to negotiate with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and its Iranian wing PYAK. The aim was to use these groups, which Turkey considers terrorist, as ground "intermediary forces" in the fighting.

During a telephone conversation with US President Donald Trump, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan unequivocally opposed such a scenario.

He recalled that Turkey's position on the territorial integrity of Iran is crystal clear and warned that Ankara will intervene militarily "regardless of the ongoing processes, just like it did in Syria".

“We will not listen to any stories about active processes. We will attack. "You saw what happened in Syria, we will do the same here. Necessary measures will be taken at the slightest attempt to spread the war fire in the region”, Erdogan said.


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The problem I have with this concept is the digging part.

Are they gonna be hauling bulldozers and excavators with their helicopters deep into Iran to open up the entrances up?
Can't tnt/ dynamite be used? Probably still need heavy machinery to move rubble. Also thry would be guessing which site holds the material unless they have concrete intelligence.

Lets assume they get the site right, its likely to be heavily damaged, so flying deep into enemy territory, with a site that will likely cave in on them killing or trapping them. Sounds like a suicide mission but if they pull it off bravo.
 
Can't tnt/ dynamite be used? Probably still need heavy machinery to move rubble. Also thry would be guessing which site holds the material unless they have concrete intelligence.

Lets assume they get the site right, its likely to be heavily damaged, so flying deep into enemy territory, with a site that will likely cave in on them killing or trapping them. Sounds like a suicide mission but if they pull it off bravo.
Besides the fact that the entrances have been cemented literally, i.e. poured a good amount of concrete on them, the sites could also be contaminated with corrosive gases and high radiation.

It will be a hell of an operation, I guess.
 

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