Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

BREAKING: Kuwait says Iran attacked one of its water distillation plants overnight

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[Immortals]

not a high quality source

MEO is one of the best sources there is. You are mistaken. I haven’t seen him make many mistakes.

Mistakes of course happen in Fog of War, but for example even OSINTDefender posted the AI video of aluminum factory burning in Dubai with the plane flying backwards and this account didn’t.

 

[Immortals]

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[Wingzero30]

"Zionist Defense Minister Katz, who told the Iranian leaders to come out from underground, is now present in one of the underground shelters with Ben Gvir."

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There appears to be no sign of their demon leader. It seems Katz is running the evil show.

 

[Persian Gulf]

MEO is one of the best sources there is. You are mistaken. I haven’t seen him make many mistakes.

Mistakes of course happen in Fog of War, but for example even OSINTDefender posted the AI video of aluminum factory burning in Dubai with the plane flying backwards and this account didn’t.

they are OK as a source. but any time someone says 'preliminary reports' they are likely getting the information from a telegram source which rarely turns out to be correct.

1 killed and 7 injured? we can return to this tomorrow.

 

[Immortals]

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[Yommie]

Under the War Powers Act of 1973, he didn't. He has free reign for 60 days.

Yet, let's be intellectually honest here. When 9/11 happened, Bush 43 didn't seek approval from Congress to keep hostilities in Afghanistan going after 60 days nor was the Congressional approval to commence Operation Iraqi Freedom. Congress really didn't care for all of 20 years.

Why? Because they were all making money hand over fist. That's why.

It's only now they seem to have an interest. Even as they continue to make money.

True. But the US was attacked in 2001. Iran never attacked the US and had no intention to. This is a blatantly illegal invasion on Trump's part to distract from the Epstein revelations. Congress won't give him funding after 60 days. No funding. No army.

 

[Persian Gulf]

There appears to be no sign of their demon leader. It seems Katz is running the evil show.

ironically reports came out today that Hezbollah almost killed Katz on the first day of the war... Hezbollah tracked Katz and 2 of his aides in north Israel, and struck the building with an ATGM, his 2 aides were injured but Katz 'miraculously' survived.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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BREAKING: Kuwait says Iran attacked one of its water distillation plants overnight

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[ShapurII]

That is not really sought in practice. Presidents can say it doesn't really count as hostilities. If Obama did that, Trump sure as well won't let Congress get in the way of his Israeli-ordered war.

Which war did Obama start? I can't remember.
I mean the US was involved in Syria and lots of other places, but none of them were actual wars like this, or even remotely close to this scale.

This war has been the largest US war since the Iraq war, and if a ground invasion starts, it may be comparable to the Vietnam War.

 

[EugeneP]

Under the War Powers Act of 1973, he didn't. He has free reign for 60 days.

Yet, let's be intellectually honest here. When 9/11 happened, Bush 43 didn't seek approval from Congress to keep hostilities in Afghanistan going after 60 days nor was the Congressional approval to commence Operation Iraqi Freedom. Congress really didn't care for all of 20 years.

Why? Because they were all making money hand over fist. That's why.

It's only now they seem to have an interest. Even as they continue to make money.

What is this then?

The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF; Pub. L. 107–40 ) is a joint resolution of the United States Congress which became law on September 18, 2001, authorizing the use of the United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the September 11 attacks. The authorization granted the president the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11 attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

True. But the US was attacked in 2001. Iran never attacked the US and had no intention to. This is a blatantly illegal invasion on Trump's part to distract from the Epstein revelations. Congress won't give him funding after 60 days. No funding. No army.

Congress has now been briefed. And, not surprisingly, some are on board. Some are not. I really don't want to go down a rathole in this thread. We can discuss in the alternate thread in US Defence section.

 

[Immortals]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Which war did Obama start? I can't remember.
I mean the US was involved in Syria and lots of other places, but none of them were actual wars like this, or even remotely close to this scale.

This war has been the largest US war since the Iraq war, and if a ground invasion starts, it may be comparable to the Vietnam War.

It's not that Obama started any wars. If anything, he did surge the troops in A'stan for a period of time while randomly bombing a number of countries. There is a list, will see if I can find it.

Oh, and he did kill a few Americans via drone strikes.