Afghan women / Girls bar from education and job.

[Persian Gulf]

keeping women ignorant is a solution sure but it creates different sorts of problems

did you really just type these words and post them for us all to read?

 

[Baadil]

Kya galat bola hai ?

Topic is Afghanistan, their society and their outlook/worldview and how it is for women there.. which is roundly criticized by many Muslims too.

This is not a religious discussion, this is culture very specific to Afghanistan.

Based on what objective/subjective principles you personally adhere to, do you create a scale of "the burka and being one of 4" on one end and "nights out and the tinder lifestyle" on the other? Following this, it leads directly to a religious discussion which supposedly is not permitted.

 

[Baadil]

Buddy when you live here, you realize what the fcuks happening to these people

You live amongst and work with mostly non Muslim white people (depending on where you are)

You can like them as individuals, but they have messed their social lives up badly, and all you have to do is listen..

Listen to the delusions of the women here,
The reality that in a open sexual market place the best looking men have the most options and are screwing around with as many women as possible, that's leaving these women not only with a bench mark that the average men in the west can't reach, but delusions that mean they feel like they are settling for less when with the average man.
Social media then supercharges these delusions and expectations and women are divorcing in a society where divorce tends to favor women and where men can be rinsed.



Education is great, but education mixed with feminist delusions can have a societal effect that's can destroy the family



The Taliban have felt the best way to counter this is to end education for women completely.
this is wrong, wrong in Islam and has no sanction
keeping women ignorant is a solution sure but it creates different sorts of problems


however we need to address not only the quality of education, but how we are raising our children and what values , faith and culture we are instilling in them and the social culture prevalent in colleges and universities

Members should appreciate the value of first-hand perspective, even if it can be critiqued

 

[Yommie]

This is something I cannot understand, why prohibit women from receiving more education?

Educated women do not marry. Look at South Korea.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Women must be educated. Perhaps there is something that we do not know, why they are not allowing women to be educated.

 

[Mrc]

Who will deliver their babies? Male doctors?

 

[SecularNationalist]

Backward savages.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Who will deliver their babies? Male doctors?

Older women called dai .
Still no gynaecologist expertise for women.
Brain dead morons they are.

 

[kambhakt]

I'm not justifying Talibans ban, in telling you why they are doing what they are doing, what their reasoning is, not that I agree with it

I'm also literally showing you what's happening in the west and the world , all this will play out over the coming decades, when large proportions of women in the west in the 40s will bw single and childless and marriage rates will decline further

If you can't see it, your blind

1st paragraph -not justifying.
2nd paragraph - here is the justification.

 

[guangdongt]

Educated women do not marry. Look at South Korea.

Isn't it because South Korea has the greatest potential discrimination against women's rights among the three East Asian countries? What is this related to women's education? Japanese housewives have legal protection for their rights in marriage. Chinese society encourages women to work and increase their income, prompting parents to invest more in girls' education. South Korea is neither, with obvious workplace harassment and rampant underground sexual violence, and less protection for marital rights than Japan.

I don't want to discuss some big truths. For the three countries in East Asia, sacrificing women's education to ensure family security is a dead end for social development. Because we are not a welfare society, nor a society that can be satisfied with just enough food. Raising children to maintain a family requires a significant amount of cost, and it is not realistic for a man to become increasingly burdensome in raising an entire family. Women must receive more education to maintain their right to work, and in the long run, this is an inevitable way to keep society moving forward. By sacrificing the rights of a portion of people to fill the gap, another portion may only be suitable for a specific place, perhaps only for a specific purpose，I have my own son and daughter, and I absolutely do not want to sacrifice my daughter's education to maintain the so-called future family in a vague way, because the higher the education level of men in our country, the vast majority of them will not choose to marry women with low education levels, causing a lot of estrangement
I won't let my son find a woman with a very low level of education either.
Not beneficial to my descendants

 

[313Ghazi]

This is something I cannot understand, why prohibit women from receiving more education?

You cannot have the next generation of illiterate morons if you educate the women.

It's important for thier model of control to have illiterate morons. Those who cannot read or write are easy to manipulate. You can easily tell them that your whims and desires are Divine Law from God himself.

 

[Areesh]

I'm not justifying Talibans ban, in telling you why they are doing what they are doing, what their reasoning is, not that I agree with it

I'm also literally showing you what's happening in the west and the world , all this will play out over the coming decades, when large proportions of women in the west in the 40s will bw single and childless and marriage rates will decline further

If you can't see it, your blind

Their reasoning is BS and is a disgrace to all Muslims

Cut this nonsense

 

[Developereo]

Why can't they open all-female schools for girls with all-female staff except maybe security guards?

Are they opposed to male-female contact or education itself?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Why can't they open all-female schools for girls with all-female staff except maybe security guards?

Are they opposed to male-female contact or education itself?

the latter

co-ed schools was never an option to begin with

 

[hussain0216]

Isn't it because South Korea has the greatest potential discrimination against women's rights among the three East Asian countries? What is this related to women's education? Japanese housewives have legal protection for their rights in marriage. Chinese society encourages women to work and increase their income, prompting parents to invest more in girls' education. South Korea is neither, with obvious workplace harassment and rampant underground sexual violence, and less protection for marital rights than Japan.

I don't want to discuss some big truths. For the three countries in East Asia, sacrificing women's education to ensure family security is a dead end for social development. Because we are not a welfare society, nor a society that can be satisfied with just enough food. Raising children to maintain a family requires a significant amount of cost, and it is not realistic for a man to become increasingly burdensome in raising an entire family. Women must receive more education to maintain their right to work, and in the long run, this is an inevitable way to keep society moving forward. By sacrificing the rights of a portion of people to fill the gap, another portion may only be suitable for a specific place, perhaps only for a specific purpose，I have my own son and daughter, and I absolutely do not want to sacrifice my daughter's education to maintain the so-called future family in a vague way, because the higher the education level of men in our country, the vast majority of them will not choose to marry women with low education levels, causing a lot of estrangement
I won't let my son find a woman with a very low level of education either.
Not beneficial to my descendants

Then what's the problem?

China's millennials are shunning marriage at alarming rates, and it's creating a nationwide population crisis that Beijing can't magically fix

A 2021 survey found that 43.5% of unmarried women respondents were hesitant to get married because they worried it would reduce their quality of life.

www.businessinsider.com

In China, Marriage Rates Are Down and ‘Bride Prices’ Are Up (Published 2023)

China’s one-child policy has led to too few women. Grooms are now paying more money for wives, in a tradition that has faced growing resistance.

www.nytimes.com

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/china/china-marriages-record-low-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/articles/how-chinas-marriage-slump-and-unstable-housing-market-are-taking-a-toll-on-the-economy-d1267392

You tell me?????


I will simply say to you that you are wrong, if you make your women delusional. Lose sight of the fact that children and family are the cornerstone of society and the most important role a woman has is to raise those children and be the center of that family then you will have major societal problems

If your women spend their lives trying to work for a company to earn money then your family will collapse, because it's not getting the attention and care it requires