US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

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Strikes continues

Pixelated photos. Worthless.
 
We're not even talking the same thing... apples and oranges.
Aramco sells over $400 billion worth of oil every year its market cap is around $1.6 trillion. Get it?

Net proceeds vs valuations are two different things. For example the Norwegian sovereign wealth funds owns about 1.5% of all listed stocks worldwide? How...
What does Norway sell?
Dude, Tesla's revenue is 94.83 billion in 2024, and yet market Cap for Tesla is currently over the trillion mark. Get what? I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to get...Do you even know what Market Cap is?

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Can you explain what we should get from all these companies with over a trillion-dollar market cap? None of them is in the oil and gas industry. So I honestly don't know what Amarco proved? Other than it being a very viable business.

Again, it's not that gas and oil are not important, and in the Norwegian case, that's mostly their sole income that nets more than others, the same as Australia, when you are talking about their mineral sector, which pays 70% of all Australian tax and is by far the number 1 income for the government. But what does it prove? That I invest most of my own income in something? Does that mean there should be Iron and Coal-Dollar out there? By the way, Australia made up ~5% of world stock and is the 6th most traded currency. Norway doesn't even have its own currency.

There are A LOT OF OTHER COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OPEC and the petroleum industry, where the Petro Dollar has no impact on them because they don't make money that way, and they made more investment than the entire OPEC combine, for example, China, Japan, South Korea, the UK, Germany, France,, the capital from all those country are more than Norway has 5 times the investment in captial market, 10 times (with China and Japan holding much of the US treasury) with bond market, what does Petro Dollar had anything to do with it? As you said, China doesn't need to settle anything in USD; that's not their game, so tell me, how does the petrodollar control investment in China or Japan?
 
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Hey folks.

I appreciate we're having a lot more discussion than I had hoped. Let's try and keep any discussions such as the above somewhat related to the overall thread and the economic impact this is causing.
 
Dude, Tesla's revenue is 94.83 billion in 2024, and yet market Cap for Tesla is currently over the trillion mark. Get what? I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to get...Do you even know what Market Cap is?

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Can you explain what we should get from all these companies with over a trillion-dollar market cap? None of them is in the oil and gas industry. So I honestly don't know what Amarco proved? Other than it being a very viable business.

Again, it's not that gas and oil are not important, and in the Norwegian case, that's mostly their sole income that nets more than others, the same as Australia, when you are talking about their mineral sector, which pays 70% of all Australian tax and is by far the number 1 income for the government. But what does it prove? That I invest most of my own income in something? Does that mean there should be Iron and Coal-Dollar out there? By the way, Australia made up ~5% of world stock and is the 6th most traded currency. Norway doesn't even have its own currency.

There are A LOT OF OTHER COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OPEC and the petroleum industry, where the Petro Dollar has no impact on them because they don't make money that way, and they made more investment than the entire OPEC combine, for example, China, Japan, South Korea, the UK, Germany, France,, the capital from all those country are more than Norway has 5 times the investment in captial market, 10 times (with China and Japan holding much of the US treasury) with bond market, what does Petro Dollar had anything to do with it? As you said, China doesn't need to settle anything in USD; that's not their game, so tell me, how does the petrodollar control investment in China or Japan?

Everything is there... including volume... but so far there is no alternative and while everyone is trying, no one is there yet. The anchor that oil/gas provides/ed post Nixon shock allowed a windfall and generated huge amounts of credit.

But this conversation is futile... we've hit the wall... or perhaps there is a mental block.

Some other day and perhaps in some other context. In the meantime let it play out.
 
Everything is there... including volume... but so far there is no alternative and while everyone is trying, no one is there yet. The anchor that oil/gas provides/ed post Nixon shock allowed a windfall and generated huge amounts of credit.

But this conversation is futile... we've hit the wall... or perhaps there is a mental block.

Some other day and perhaps in some other context. In the meantime let it play out.
What, no alternative? As I explained, it may be the case back in the 70s or even 80s, when the only feasible capitalisation was from blue chip oil stock like Amarco or bank stock, when companies like Microsoft, Tesla, or Nvidia did not exist. Today, the capital market offers a lot more than just an oil company for capital market. Again, just go back and look at that list of 10 companies that's over a trillion market cap, and that's not even a complete list as it did not list banking, telecommunication and mining company

And I don't see how you can link Petro Dollar to investment behavior either, this is not a block, you just didn't show Petro Dollar still had anything swaying the market, other than naming Amarco as one of the companies that's over a trillion. While the facts show that there are more than 50 companies with 1 trillion market cap or more, and only a handful are from oil and gas.

On the other hand, if Trump really do think Petrol Dollar is important, he wouldn't be halfassing this war........
 
On the other hand, if Trump really do think Petrol Dollar is important, he wouldn't be halfassing this war........

The rest is useless... so let's address this...

Why go to war at all? Did he halfass it? By taking out the leadership in one swift blow did he repeat Maduro's abduction? A "little excursion" at sea?
 
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Sir, this Sprinter guy is a fraud and has been called out before for being heavily biased.
 
The rest is useless... so let's address this...

Why go to war at all? Did he halfass it? By taking out the leadership in one swift blow did he repeat Maduro's abduction? A "little excursion" at sea?
The question you should ask is not "Why" they go do this and that.

The question you should ask is "What changed?"
 
Hey folks.

I appreciate we're having a lot more discussion than I had hoped. Let's try and keep any discussions such as the above somewhat related to the overall thread and the economic impact this is causing.
Economic impact? How about this…

This is the first time in the post WWII era that Chinese government bonds have rallied whereas US, normally the “safe haven” asset, have fallen in value -i.e, credit spreads on Chinese bonds contracted and on American Treasuries expanded. I’d hesitate to say “regime change “ in the financial markets since it’s actually the first time and the US has great and deep strengths in capital markets but Trump is taking an axe to American credibility. It’s in the Financial Times today but copyright means I cannot post the article here. You can check it if you like.

You should speak to traders in London, Mr. HighCountry. They are naturally politically conservative and commercially tied to US markets. They are all thinking about alternatives.
 

Trump interested in calling on Arab states to help pay for Iran war, White House says​

By Reuters
March 30, 20268:53 PM GMT+3Updated March 30, 2026



White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds a briefing at the White House in Washington

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during a press briefing in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., March 30, 2026. REUTERS/Evan Vucci Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
  • Summary
  • White House says talks with Iran continuing and progressing well
  • Trump has idea that Arab countries will pay for Iran war, WH says
  • Trump has suggested regime change in Iran is complete
WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to pay for the cost ‌of the Iran war, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, adding talks with Tehran to end the conflict are progressing well.
Leavitt, asked at a news briefing whether Arab countries would step up to help pay for the war, said she would not get ahead of the Republican president but that it was an idea that Trump had.
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"I think it's something the President would be quite interested in calling them to do," Leavitt said.
"It's an idea that I ⁠know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on."
Leavitt said that what Tehran says publicly differs from what it tells U.S. officials in private and that Iran had privately agreed to some of Washington's points.
"Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said publicly is, of course, much different than what's being communicated to us privately," Leavitt said.
Trump earlier on Monday warned that Iran's energy plants and oil wells would be obliterated if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz, after Tehran described U.S. peace proposals as "unrealistic" and fired waves of missiles at Israel.
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'REGIME CHANGE'​

Trump has said that negotiations with Tehran were going well and suggested ‌that "regime ⁠change" in Iran is complete.
"We've had regime change, if you look, already, because the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The next regime is mostly dead. And the third regime, we're dealing with different people than anybody's dealt with before. It's a whole different group of people," Trump told reporters on Sunday.
"So I would consider that regime change, and frankly, they've been very reasonable."
But U.S. Secretary of State ⁠Marco Rubio said on Good Morning America on Monday that while it would be good news if Iran had new leadership and people in charge "who have a more reasonable vision of the future," the U.S. also had to "be prepared for the possibility, maybe even the probability, that that ⁠is not the case."

Leavitt, asked on Monday how the U.S. will ensure it is making a deal with people who can implement it, warned that anything Iran says to Washington privately will be tested and that the U.S. would ensure that ⁠Tehran is held accountable.
"If they are not, the President has laid out the military consequences that the Iranian regime will see if they don't hold true to the words that we are hearing privately behind the scenes," she said.

Trump interested in calling on Arab states to help pay for Iran war, White House says

By Reuters
March 30, 20268:53 PM GMT+3Updated March 30, 2026




White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds a briefing at the White House in Washington

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during a press briefing in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., March 30, 2026. REUTERS/Evan Vucci Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
  • Summary
  • White House says talks with Iran continuing and progressing well
  • Trump has idea that Arab countries will pay for Iran war, WH says
  • Trump has suggested regime change in Iran is complete
WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to pay for the cost ‌of the Iran war, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, adding talks with Tehran to end the conflict are progressing well.
Leavitt, asked at a news briefing whether Arab countries would step up to help pay for the war, said she would not get ahead of the Republican president but that it was an idea that Trump had.
The Reuters Iran Briefing newsletter keeps you informed with the latest developments and analysis of the Iran war. Sign up here.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue
"I think it's something the President would be quite interested in calling them to do," Leavitt said.
"It's an idea that I ⁠know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on."
Leavitt said that what Tehran says publicly differs from what it tells U.S. officials in private and that Iran had privately agreed to some of Washington's points.
"Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said publicly is, of course, much different than what's being communicated to us privately," Leavitt said.
Trump earlier on Monday warned that Iran's energy plants and oil wells would be obliterated if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz, after Tehran described U.S. peace proposals as "unrealistic" and fired waves of missiles at Israel.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue

'REGIME CHANGE'

Trump has said that negotiations with Tehran were going well and suggested ‌that "regime ⁠change" in Iran is complete.
"We've had regime change, if you look, already, because the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The next regime is mostly dead. And the third regime, we're dealing with different people than anybody's dealt with before. It's a whole different group of people," Trump told reporters on Sunday.
"So I would consider that regime change, and frankly, they've been very reasonable."

Trump interested in calling on Arab states to help pay for Iran war, White House says​

By Reuters
March 30, 20268:53 PM GMT+3Updated March 30, 2026



White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds a briefing at the White House in Washington

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during a press briefing in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., March 30, 2026. REUTERS/Evan Vucci Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
  • Summary
  • White House says talks with Iran continuing and progressing well
  • Trump has idea that Arab countries will pay for Iran war, WH says
  • Trump has suggested regime change in Iran is complete
WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to pay for the cost ‌of the Iran war, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, adding talks with Tehran to end the conflict are progressing well.
Leavitt, asked at a news briefing whether Arab countries would step up to help pay for the war, said she would not get ahead of the Republican president but that it was an idea that Trump had.
The Reuters Iran Briefing newsletter keeps you informed with the latest developments and analysis of the Iran war. Sign up here.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue
"I think it's something the President would be quite interested in calling them to do," Leavitt said.
"It's an idea that I ⁠know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on."
Leavitt said that what Tehran says publicly differs from what it tells U.S. officials in private and that Iran had privately agreed to some of Washington's points.
"Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said publicly is, of course, much different than what's being communicated to us privately," Leavitt said.
Trump earlier on Monday warned that Iran's energy plants and oil wells would be obliterated if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz, after Tehran described U.S. peace proposals as "unrealistic" and fired waves of missiles at Israel.
Advertisement · Scroll to continue

'REGIME CHANGE'​

Trump has said that negotiations with Tehran were going well and suggested ‌that "regime ⁠change" in Iran is complete.
"We've had regime change, if you look, already, because the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The next regime is mostly dead. And the third regime, we're dealing with different people than anybody's dealt with before. It's a whole different group of people," Trump told reporters on Sunday.
"So I would consider that regime change, and frankly, they've been very reasonable."
But U.S. Secretary of State ⁠Marco Rubio said on Good Morning America on Monday that while it would be good news if Iran had new leadership and people in charge "who have a more reasonable vision of the future," the U.S. also had to "be prepared for the possibility, maybe even the probability, that that ⁠is not the case."





Leavitt, asked on Monday how the U.S. will ensure it is making a deal with people who can implement it, warned that anything Iran says to Washington privately will be tested and that the U.S. would ensure that ⁠Tehran is held accountable.
"If they are not, the President has laid out the military consequences that the Iranian regime will see if they don't hold true to the words that we are hearing privately behind the scenes," she said.

Trump interested in calling on Arab states to help pay for Iran war, White House says

By Reuters
March 30, 20268:53 PM GMT+3Updated March 30, 2026

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds a briefing at the White House in Washington

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during a press briefing in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., March 30, 2026. REUTERS/Evan Vucci Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
  • Summary
  • White House says talks with Iran continuing and progressing well
  • Trump has idea that Arab countries will pay for Iran war, WH says
  • Trump has suggested regime change in Iran is complete
WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to pay for the cost ‌of the Iran war, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, adding talks with Tehran to end the conflict are progressing well.
Leavitt, asked at a news briefing whether Arab countries would step up to help pay for the war, said she would not get ahead of the Republican president but that it was an idea that Trump had.
The Reuters Iran Briefing newsletter keeps you informed with the latest developments and analysis of the Iran war. Sign up here.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue
"I think it's something the President would be quite interested in calling them to do," Leavitt said.
"It's an idea that I ⁠know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on."
Leavitt said that what Tehran says publicly differs from what it tells U.S. officials in private and that Iran had privately agreed to some of Washington's points.
"Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said publicly is, of course, much different than what's being communicated to us privately," Leavitt said.
Trump earlier on Monday warned that Iran's energy plants and oil wells would be obliterated if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz, after Tehran described U.S. peace proposals as "unrealistic" and fired waves of missiles at Israel.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue

'REGIME CHANGE'

Trump has said that negotiations with Tehran were going well and suggested ‌that "regime ⁠change" in Iran is complete.
"We've had regime change, if you look, already, because the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The next regime is mostly dead. And the third regime, we're dealing with different people than anybody's dealt with before. It's a whole different group of people," Trump told reporters on Sunday.
"So I would consider that regime change, and frankly, they've been very reasonable."
But U.S. Secretary of State ⁠Marco Rubio said on Good Morning America on Monday that while it would be good news if Iran had new leadership and people in charge "who have a more reasonable vision of the future," the U.S. also had to "be prepared for the possibility, maybe even the probability, that that ⁠is not the case."
Leavitt, asked on Monday how the U.S. will ensure it is making a deal with people who can implement it, warned that anything Iran says to Washington privately will be tested and that the U.S. would ensure that ⁠Tehran is held accountable.
"If they are not, the President has laid out the military consequences that the Iranian regime will see if they don't hold true to the words that we are hearing privately behind the scenes," she said.

Leavitt, asked on Monday how the U.S. will ensure it is making a deal with people who can implement it, warned that anything Iran says to Washington privately will be tested and that the U.S. would ensure that ⁠Tehran is held accountable.
"If they are not, the President has laid out the military consequences that the Iranian regime will see if they don't hold true to the words that we are hearing privately behind the scenes," she said.
 
@dani191 please post in existing threads. Don't make new ones for the same subject being discussed elsewhere.
 

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