Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Gripen9 said:
Yeh nailey he rahein gaye

After witnessing systemic destruction of US radars across ME, these guys want to so this right at the border....


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April fools ?
 
Recent indian false flag attempt at chandigarh and even indians are not buying it anymore everyone is saying its a script lol.
 
Wake up babe new churan just dropped, P8-I over kashmir trying to find PN’s subs which sailed from Lahore sea port before it’s destruction at the hands of Indian Navy.

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Toxic said:
Wake up babe new churan just dropped, P8-I over kashmir trying to find PN’s subs which sailed from Lahore sea port before it’s destruction at the hands of Indian Navy.

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Yes was gonna message the same chatter i was hearing....IN awarded some of it people , including marcos and i am interested about the bogus claims of 4 & 9 Para infiltrating during the may conflict @Panzerkiel any words?
 
Toxic said:
Wake up babe new churan just dropped, P8-I over kashmir trying to find PN’s subs which sailed from Lahore sea port before it’s destruction at the hands of Indian Navy.

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So.....they were flying a maritime surveillance asset over mountain far inland?

Must be observing the sea port of Lahore.
 
rafale said:
Oscar,

I believe, respectfully, the PL15s outrange Meteors by a large margin and if PAF was targeting using off board radars and AWACs, how would IAF launch their Meteors first before getting shot at?

One Rafale was shot at 190km.......that's what we know....what no one knows is the true full range of PL15...is it 200km? 250km?

Secondly, i firmly believe that their Rafales, which were carrying Meteors, could have launched or attempted to the very moment their strike packages were being attacked by PAF, yet they did not. And the reason is not ROE bullshit or whatever copium Indians say. You don't fly with offensive Meteors and MICAs and be restricted by ROE. Makes zero sense.

I believe, they did manage to evade some PL15s, and in that situation even it means that specific jet is now out of the position of posing any threat (just like S-400 being wrapped up and running around isn't gonna be able to launch missiles, so is pretty useless during the action).

By this logic, PAF could have escalated to take high risk and utilized JF-17s BLK IIIs to launch PL15s as well.
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Let me explain my understanding.

Fighters in the air are scanned by various radars, such as air defense systems and early warning aircraft. These radars have a large scanning range, but their attack range is smaller than the radar scanning range. Fighters usually consider such scanning a minor threat. I think after the Pakistan military fired the PL-15, the Indian aircraft were not locked; they believed they were outside the safe attack range. Therefore, the Indian fighters could fire missiles.

I speculate that the Pakistan military first used radar scanning, then provided the fighter with the enemy's position. The fighter did not need to turn on radar lock and fired missiles based on data link information. After the missile flew for a period, the first stage engine shut down. When it was 60-80 km from the enemy aircraft, the PL-15's guidance radar activated to search for the target, then the second stage engine started. With inertia and engine acceleration, the terminal speed reached Mach 9 (3062.5 meters/second).

When the PL-15 radar locked onto the enemy aircraft, the enemy aircraft issued a radar warning, indicating it was locked by a missile. However, the reaction time was only 20-27 seconds. This reaction time only allows for ejection; any maneuver or countermeasure is ineffective (Rafale's maximum speed is Mach 2, Su-30MKI's maximum speed is Mach 1.7, which is not enough to escape PL-15 lock). At the same time, Pakistan used electronic jamming aircraft to interfere with enemy planes, and the enemy's early warning aircraft could not provide information in time.

The range of the PL-15 in export versions is ≥145 km. Data on Chinese weapons are highly classified. Currently, the only reliable data is that the Pakistan military killed an Indian aircraft at a distance of 190 km.

The reason India did not attack Pakistani aircraft in advance is simple: India's missile range is insufficient and must be fired within range.

India did not avoid the PL-15. The PL-15 that India acquired was relatively intact, but its most important radar seeker and booster fuel were completely destroyed. I speculate it could not find the target, and after consuming its fuel, the PL-15 self-destructed.

In air combat or air defense interception, usually two or three missiles are used against one target. Therefore, I believe the Pakistan military would not fire only the same number of missiles as the targets. When fighters do not activate radar lock to guide the missile, there must be enough missiles to increase the success rate of the strike. Hence, there are complete PL-15 wrecks.

The JF-17 Block 3 can launch PL-15 missiles. This aircraft is a flagship product of Pakistan.
 
Bratva said:
Fatah-II was used to attack India: DG-ISPR in Hamid Mir Interview. This is as official as it gets. We don't know whether it was 250 KM wala Fatah-II which is on GIDS website or 400 KM wala fatah-II which army tested.
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Did it met its target or not?
 
Starlord said:
China can cut off the 7 sister states in their own blitzkrieg type assault, and at the same time launch a offensive in Kashmir region by pushing Indians into a chokehold, they can't stop the Chinese military on two front if China decided to full concentrate its military force, and as America is busy with Iran/Middle east, ain't no one coming to help India, not even Russia this time.
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My friend, as long as India does not initiate war, we will not carry out large-scale attacks against India.

Although I also wish to drive India out of Chinese territory, striking India would have serious consequences. Europe’s refugee problem is a profound lesson.

India has the largest population in the world and the worst sanitary conditions. A large-scale attack on India would create a huge number of Indian refugees. I believe China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, and Myanmar would not want so many Indians to enter their countries.

We use a metaphor: India is a cesspool, constantly disgusting everyone. When you can’t help but hit it, you find that the flying excrement is even more disgusting.

We believe India has the conditions for division. It would be more appropriate for India to split into a dozen or so countries. Therefore, we tend to maintain Pakistan’s weapons advantage to prevent the expansion of this cesspool. If expansion is necessary, it can be directed toward developed countries.
 
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