Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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If I was Trump, I would be feeling super embarassed right now after lying to the whole world that Iran's AD has been decimated.

But knowing him, this guy is a typical besharam.
 
Iran doesn't have any operational B-373

Not because they are destroyed or not, but because its not in active service or produced yet

really ? I thought they had a dozen units ?

it was delivered years ago?

apologies if wrong
 
really ? I thought they had a dozen units ?

it was delivered years ago?

apologies if wrong
There was a satellite imagery of one B-373 but its unknown if its just a prototype or active

Else no proof of active B-373 in Iran
 
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I continued following the plane on Flightradar, it moved further down to the location shown in red circle, then disappeared off of Flightradar.

In the final 30 seconds the Altitude info, which had stayed at 10K Meters, fluctuated quickly between 9K & 8K. In the last 10 seconds Altitude switched to N/A and then the Jet disappeared from Flightradar. Not sure what it all means.

There is no airport or runway where it went off of flightradar. It was issuing 7700 code until the end.

Have you heard of a transponder
 

BREAKING: US confirms American fighter jet shot down over Iran | DW News​

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Can Iran claim to have destroyed any large Israeli industrial sector like this(assuming of course Netanyahu is correct).

Iran needs to switch to attacks that totally destroy certain facilities like Israel is. Right now, the attacks are too widely spread out and are not actually destroying real capability in Israel.


I have no idea why Iran does cluster attacks on settlers in Tel Aviv. Looks more emotional than practical.

Iran did get a hit on Haifa oil refinery(minor as storage tank) and also that chemical plant which caused severe damage.

Forget cluster attacks on settlers in Tel Aviv Iran and take out their industrial base. Zio-US are having to ration interceptors now and 3-4 days of attacks on industrial targets will restore deterrence as many missiles are now likely to get through and cause damage.
 
i will settle for shooting down the jet.
still a big deal when Americans claimef they decimated Iranian airdefence
True, Iran is a huge huge country, jagged mountainous terrain, remote areas unreachable by road, so, with win no airforce and choppers, It can get virtually impossible for Iran to search the pilot. Though, the US choppers should've been shot down before entering Iran's airspace.
 
There was a satellite imagery of one B-373 but its unknown if its just a prototype or active

Else no proof of active B-373 in Iran

1 Arman TEL was destroyed by USAF in the early weeks of the war.


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Oh man if I was a US official I'd be deleting cookies, (Is that still a thing?) history and any sketchy photos uploaded in my puter before Iranian hackers out me. 😳
 
I have no idea why Iran does cluster attacks on settlers in Tel Aviv. Looks more emotional than practical.

Iran did get a hit on Haifa oil refinery(minor as storage tank) and also that chemical plant which caused severe damage.

Forget cluster attacks on settlers in Tel Aviv Iran and take out their industrial base. Zio-US are having to ration interceptors now and 3-4 days of attacks on industrial targets will restore deterrence as many missiles are now likely to get through and cause damage.

Israel is not holding back, and is focussed on destroying real capability. That is not the case with Iran.

I don't fully understand Iran's approach. It may be a limitation in their mosaic approach ? Lack of senior experienced leadership ? Lack of doctrine, or strategy ?

With the exception of taking out the radars across the middle east for which there is a strategy and goal, there is not a coherent approach to the targeting of other targets in Israel as if there is no real strategy? Difficult to say.

At this point, given what Israel has attacked, Iran should have by now destroyed all of Israel power generation and oil infrastructure targets, but it has at best made 1 or 2 hits and destroy a single power generation facility or oil storage or processing facility out of the many that Israel has. 1 or 2 "targeting", and then they seem to think that is it ??

Odd - they learnt some things from the 12day war, but there obviously needs more work to be done on military strategy and the idea of "completion of mission objectives". A lot lot more. ( That will be a thread in its own right once this war is done, ie all the flaws in Irans conduct of war ..).
 

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