Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

CynicalPakistaniCritic said:
Either Pakistani security establishment minds are passive & weak, too scared of international opinions to exercise true power, or they are being subverted by pro-Afghan actors.

We have seen similar scenarios in Turkey where this was dealt with far more aggressively utilizing the required force and PKK is now a thing of the past.

Pakistan is not just a victim of terrorism, it is a victim of its cowardly leaders that are not nationalists at heart and can't even confront weak threats, but instead submit to them again & again.
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Friend, Turkey’s situation is completely different to Afghanistan.

The situation with Afghanistan is that they are an actual nation recognized by the UN, the Kurds aren’t. The Kurds have the same rights as the Turks, they can be elected as officials, open shops, own property, there is no real discrimination only felt discrimination; their grievances are mostly wanting a state of their own and wanting independence, their sentiments are purely nationalistic.

The dilemma in Pakistan is completely different, I would say their motives are more ideological and nationalistic and on top of that there is an actual nation backing them, while with the Kurds every nation that Kurds reside in are opposed to a Kurdistan.

Putting that aside. At the current moment the real threat for Pakistan isn’t Afghanistan. It’s the current situation that is happening with Iran and the UAE, I believe something big is going to happen soon, from the news I’ve been reading I think the UAE with Saudi might be getting ready along with US for a ground operation in Iran, and I believe it wants Pakistan to also help in that hence why the UAE has been cancelling visas and why Pakistan gave back 3 and half billion back to the UAE.

Afghanistan is a minor nuisance at the current moment, Pakistanis should prepare themselves for what will happen in the next 3 months, hopefully peace can prevail in this region as all this region ever has known is war and destabilization, I truly feel bad for all the people in the region hopefully in the next decade and forward there will be peace and brotherhood instead of all this bad blood.
 
Sainthood 2.0 said:
I saw that lol, and they all jumped in on you
Don't take fauj-ts too seriously. Just say your piece and move on, as deep down we all know that we all want the best for this country, regardless of all the BS one side says.
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I would have been so happy to have been proved wrong but the truth is our establishments red line is civilians trying to control the country. Anything other than that is negotiable.

Here we are, yet again, making peace with those who have waged war against us directly for the last 20 years at least.
 
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Taimoor said:
Simple answer: Terrorism has increased since Muneer regime usurped power in Pakistan.
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Do you even read your posts?

You are indirectly saying " TTA are feeling aggrieved by Asim Muneer "usurpation of power" so they have increased the support for anti Pakistan terrorist networks and terrorists attacks in Pakistan" otherwise they won't?
 
Blain2 said:
Please give this "pleasing Amreeka" track a break. Nobody except the pro-taliban and affiliated echo-chambers buy and try to sell this logic inside Pakistan.

TTA is killing Pakistanis. There is NO DOUBT about this. 3000 Pakistanis have been murdered by the TTA in the past 3 years (guess who was running Afghanistan all these years?). And here we have you preaching to us that Pakistan has the epicenter of terrorism all wrong. It does not matter if TTA as a government did not exist prior to when the TTP problem arose. The entire support structure for TTP is the TTA! The same goes for the BLA. TTA opened up the entire country to these elements to recuperate, get equipped and attack Pakistan.

Pakistan was going after the snakes in Medusa's (TTA) head which was never going to yield the right results. Now it is going after Medusa's head directly. This is the reason that there is a massive drop in terrorism inside Pakistan, so clearly Pakistan is knocking on the right door for all the right reason. Every attack inside Pakistan should be responded to with a direct attack on TTA inside of Afghanistan at the seat of their existence i.e. Kabul and Kandahar. No ifs and buts!

TTA is the focal point. Not TTP/BLA which are tools used by the TTA to keep Pakistan under pressure. Pakistan is fighting this war with NO US assistance and at its own behest and interests. We are fighting this war because the TTA bastards are killing Pakistanis.
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You need to give yourself a break from this non sensical broken record narrative about those who question the "agenda" as "Pro Taliban". Lay it off.


You people have memory of goldfish. This is EXACTLY how wot 1.0 was fought where the serpant head (raw/nds) was not crushed and we kept on killing the foot soldiers, with ZERO success, endup losing 80k citizens. This is exactly how this current operation has now concluded with both TTA, TTP and BLA leadership INTACT. Look around you, rest of the world take out the leadership as their top most priority, and we are talking about the rag tags here!

Terrorism has dropped? There was suicide attack just days before!

If you lot stop your cultist behavior and apply some logic and free thinking, it will all start making sense.
 
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I*R*A said:
Do you even read your posts?

You are indirectly saying " TTA are feeling aggrieved by Asim Muneer "usurpation of power" so they have increased the support for anti Pakistan terrorist networks and terrorists attacks in Pakistan" otherwise they won't?
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It's simple mean usurpurs are not competent and utter failure but worse, agenda is more demonic. When consolidation of power and acceptance among powers to be is the only goal, you end up in this situation. I predict this reigniting of western flanks by usupurs just after regime change operation.
 
Taimoor said:
It's simple mean usurpurs are not competent and utter failure but worse, agenda is more demonic. When consolidation of power and acceptance among powers to be is the only goal, you end up in this situation. I predict this reigniting of western flanks by usupurs just after regime change operation.
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Okay, then how do you resolve this contradiction

  1. TTA supported terrorists were killing Pakistanis on a daily basis, even when Pakistan kept informing and complaining no action was taken by TTAs. (Did Pakistan invite those terrorists to attack Pakistan?)
  2. Pakistan finally in retaliation attacked the terrorists hideouts and networks in afghanistan (that was the Pakistani public sentiment as well), however, TTA in response initiated a border clash, should Pakistan have kept quite and let the TTA overrun our border posts and may be accomplish their loy afghan thing?
Whichever way you look at it, Pakistan was not the instigator but responding to attacks, I do not know how the usurper demonic agenda fits into all this?
 
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