Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

See Side-winder's post above. This is the point that I have been making for over a week. Pakistan brokering peace is because Pakistan does not want to get roped into the war and pick sides.

Thus, spectating isn't much of an option for Pakistan given the current trajectory.
I am not saying we should not have. That was the right thing to do. But maybe the time has run out now. Again just my opinion.
 
Walk away and let armagedeon begin?

Yes

Asking Iran to give its biggest concession up without anything in return (a ceasefire for 2 weeks is worth nothing when you already been bombed 15,000 times) is a dumb proposal.

This ceasefire proposal was completely slanted towards US and Israel and the Arab nations.

Dead on arrival.

But what more do you expect from Pakistan PM who was praising Trump for being the beacon of peace just weeks ago at the farce “Board of Peace” summit.
 
Can we even afford to go into just watch mode? cause directly or indirectly we will be dragged into this war, and maybe next time our ships will not pass through the SoH with ease, what will happen then? we are already risking the relationship with GCC by not actively taking part in KSA defense, and if we lose all of GCC and according to Iranians here we are the reincarnation of Devil so we are making enemies out of both.
one Iranian guy getting into a beef with with one Pakistani guy on an internet forum, and you want to use that as a foreign policy justification...
 
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“Had” to. And we have. Everything has a time and place.

I suppose you are right. Irani's has decided that they want their and GCC infra destroyed to maximum. While they wont be destroying Israel or Azerbaijan oil facilities which is main source of oil for Israel. If no party is willing to give an inch or compromise to give peace talks a chance, then let it run it's course.
 
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Pakistan calling a stop to this ?

was this always a set up to call Irans bluff>?
 
What the fukc do you expect them
To do?
Negotiations and talks mean compromise - give and take. Both parties have to realease the stubbornness and allow a deal to be reached. What do you want Pakistan to do? Walk away and let armagedeon begin?
Look I don't think folks are seeing it from Iran's perspective here. Our country is doing what it can, but we must accept that in the grand scheme of things, we are a nobody in this conflict, be it diplomatically or militarily. We have done our best and we can leave it at that. Iran has to do what they think is in their interest and negotiating with a nation that has betrayed them twice during 'negotiations' isn't easy. Id be vary, too.
 
I suppose you are right. Irani's has decided that they want their and GCC infra destroyed to maximum. While they wont be destroying Israel or Azerbaijan oil facilities which is main source of oil for Israel. If no party is willing to give an inch or compromise to give peace talks a chance, then let it run it's course.
We have a saying: dost rulaye, dushman hasai. “A fiend makes you cry (with truth) and an enemy makes to laugh (with flattery).

They think those encouraging them to have their hardship continue or get worse are their friends, let them find out.
 

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