Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

There are chances for talks in Islamabad this Friday between top US leadership and Iran.
 
If these 10 points are true - its not a loss for either side. But no mention of nuclear enrichment or missile tech.

Iran's 10-point plan includes:

1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
8. Iran would split these fees with Oman
9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations
Bro I do not know why people cannot get through their head that this was just the initial stage to go from diametrically opposed and on a death spiral to finding an opportunity to a resolution


Now if you believe resolution equals surrender or loss that is simply your own mind projecting
 
One thing, trumpy now knows threat of war wont scare Iran to give up enrichment and their missile tech so they will have to work within that to find an overall solution.
 
2 weeks if this ceasefire holds that long and Iran doesn’t surrender to the same demands before the war than Ibibi and Trump will attempt to finish it with the breathing room they gave themselves
Yeah they are not gonna leave Iran alone unless Iran agrees to some demands

They're fine with the current Iranian regime as long as they withdraw support to Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Houthi's

Israel got what it wants and emerged almost unscathed. It's the biggest winner of the war. I don't get why Iran wasn't targeting vital infrastructure in Israel.

But Trump is a compromised agent of Israel and Israel may resume hits on Iran later this year or next who knows. They're taking a break now probably to replenish more ammo. Iran had a leverage here but also got scared of Trump threats
 
Because of this, the United States should immediately start building a giant stadium in Pakistan to receive US football teams to play against Pakistan and other countries
I demand as a Pakistani that Alexandra Daddario should be given to me as my wife as goodwill gesture.
 
You are on your way to becoming the superpower, follow the American's style of rule, they built up and had strong allies that pushed the US influence wide and far. Sometimes we have to evolve in our thinking. The Westerners did and they colonized much of the planet. I will give credit this.
I think the last thing China wants to do is to follow the paths of US, Soviet Union or the British Empire. Each one empire only finds itself to collapse quickly simply because of their over expansion and greed. China has stated repeatedly it has no interest of becoming a global hegemon like the US now. It just will guard its legitimate interests in the world and not to interfere in other countries' business. China will chart its own path not similar to US one.
 
well looks like the messaging is at least being controlled by external parties...


FFS people.

Read the actual tweet.

This draft was prepared by a Pakistani. Even the grammar and syntax are clearly Pakistani-style English. Nobody other than a Pakistani (or plausibly an Indian, but we know that didn't happen because they are busily smashing their typewriters in hysterical rage) would write in this way.

The header was "Pakistani PM draft" to avert any ambiguity from the staff who prepared it. It is plausible and reasonable that other parties saw this draft so messages were co-ordinated and not contradictory. But there is ZERO doubt that a Pakistani staffer of the GoP prepared this.

Folks need to stay focused on the contents of the proposal.

Let Indian media howl about this all they like. They can only really howl these days, nothing more.
 
Well, based on what the Pakistani officials and media said, and I trust them because this whole thing was their idea, the ceasefire is for buying time to negotiate a deal. What happened the last two times that we negotiated with the Trump administration?
Or they already negotiated the ceasefire. Trump got to stroke his ego with his latest tweet. He gets to tell his magatards that he won the war and forced Iran into submission. Iran gets the 10 point plan.

What more could they have done short of dropping nukes on us? Continue bombing civilian infrastructure won’t open Hormuz or stop IRGC from launching drones and missiles on a daily basis.
 

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