Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Let’s see what happens in 2 weeks the pessimism in me says this is a trap but who knows they’re letting them keep everything and giving them total sanctions relief plus they get to keep enrichment(which they are going to have to rebuild again take a a year for small enrichment site) Israel stops all attacks in Lebanon(real ceasefire no more wink wink) and Iran makes the world pay billions of dollars a year to use straits that were free before this war……if it sounds to be good to be true usually is to good to be true

You got to be hopeful. Iran would not surrender and USA would not back off. USA is arrogant when comes to showing off power.

Based on what I hear, I think USA was looking for out of this conflict but didn't know how. Pakistan save the day.

Let's hope for the best but I don't trust zion mad dogs. They probably not satisfy with the ceasefire and may continue fighting.

I will be happy if USA stays out of it. If zion wants to fight then they should fight alone without USA.
 
Let’s see how many of these actually happen. There is no mention of what happens to HEU, enrichment level, missiles, etc.

Hopefully US doesn’t backstab Iran for a 3rd time.

Iran gave away all its leverage for a wishlist that U.S. will “consider”

They will backstab you again if they have this capability, and they won't simply they don't have the capability anymore.
 
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Wouldn’t count your chickens before they hatch, still have to have them sign the deal.

US still wants zero enrichment, dismantlement of nuclear of facilities, no HEU on Iranian soil.
 
No doubt, Israel badly damaged the US superpower status, and the US lost a lot.
Of all the people I did not think I would consider Tucker Carlson having the right idea - nor the self proclaimed youtube professor - but the idea that Israel needs the US out of the ME as security guarantor for ME to really set its greater Israel project in motion now makes sense.

Lets say this does lead to a US withdrawal from the GCC or reduction everywhere except Israel - then you will have basically a split within the GCC with a Saudi bloc and a Qatari bloc with various guarantors in Pakistan, Turkey, potentially India for UAE and Israeli government (with its far-right elements actively promoting the Greater Israel map) could pursue a strategy of incremental annexation. This wouldn't necessarily be a sudden, large-scale land grab. Instead, it could involve:

  • Rapid expansion of settlements and de facto annexation of large parts of the West Bank under the guise of security concerns.
  • Creating crises (e.g., along the Syrian or Lebanese border) that provide pretexts for military intervention and the establishment of buffer zones.
  • Taking advantage of instability in neighboring countries (like Jordan or parts of Saudi Arabia) to exert influence or even claim territory.
  • With Egypt facing internal challenges, Israel could increase its presence and control in the Sinai Peninsula, citing security threats.
They wont achieve the whole map but would be able to create a greater security envelope for themselves - Iran is already weakened enough to focus on rebuilding first while GCC have to spend a lot of money on investment in their oil networks.
 
I doubt the US has already exhausted all its major assets. Now it's billing time for GCC. Trump may get in trouble, impeachment, or anything else ...
Cute of you to think GCC will pay for anything. It's not their war. Go demand from Jews and Israel your money back.
 
Of all the people I did not think I would consider Tucker Carlson having the right idea - nor the self proclaimed youtube professor - but the idea that Israel needs the US out of the ME as security guarantor for ME to really set its greater Israel project in motion now makes sense.

Lets say this does lead to a US withdrawal from the GCC or reduction everywhere except Israel - then you will have basically a split within the GCC with a Saudi bloc and a Qatari bloc with various guarantors in Pakistan, Turkey, potentially India for UAE and Israeli government (with its far-right elements actively promoting the Greater Israel map) could pursue a strategy of incremental annexation. This wouldn't necessarily be a sudden, large-scale land grab. Instead, it could involve:

  • Rapid expansion of settlements and de facto annexation of large parts of the West Bank under the guise of security concerns.
  • Creating crises (e.g., along the Syrian or Lebanese border) that provide pretexts for military intervention and the establishment of buffer zones.
  • Taking advantage of instability in neighboring countries (like Jordan or parts of Saudi Arabia) to exert influence or even claim territory.
  • With Egypt facing internal challenges, Israel could increase its presence and control in the Sinai Peninsula, citing security threats.
They wont achieve the whole map but would be able to create a greater security envelope for themselves - Iran is already weakened enough to focus on rebuilding first while GCC have to spend a lot of money on investment in their oil networks.
Sir what an amazing post.
 
This ^ sheesh.. The copium is still large in this thread.
"Copium" would for the US that launched an un-necessary war for the sake of Israel and the GCC and failed to meet all its strategic objectives, finally throwing in the towel. For Iran to go toe to toe with the US and Israel and survive is a huge victory.

Now the US Navy can sail away all those big useless ships.
 
If Irani welcome the ceasefire then non-Irani needs to shut the F up. It's easy to talk big and push others to fight for your self centered interests.

You want to destroy zion then stand side by side and fight together otherwise shut up.
 

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