Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[bengalcdn]

Israel is not going to direct confrontation or war of any kind with Pakistan

Over the years here I've seen various individuals always claiming Israel is going to attack Pakistan. Quite frankly a a load of b*******

Nothing against you my friend

Yes, they will get their minions in the US to attack or now as they are planning to use India for Pakistan and Greece against Turkey and Somali land against Yemen. Fortunately for Pakistan India doesn’t have the overwhelming military advantage to defeat Pakistan and most importantly Pakistan has China who can single handily crush India. Just like Israel used trump to attack Iran this time. It is clear without US funding and support Israel will be mauled by Iran

 

[Falcon29]

By staying neutral

Iran attacked them in the beginning multiple times

They helped mediate and likely demanded such condition themselves or pitched the idea itself

And for US to make it look less embarrassing it included Oman in it

 

[HAIDER]

 

[gambit]

Well I don’t think it is that simple...

Yes, it is that simple...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE

A missile is a throwaway weapon, an airplane is not. The airplane is reusable. The airplane gives the national leadership flexibility in everything, from negotiation to combat.

I definitely agree Iran lacking a modern efficient Air Force is one of their biggest problems but as everyone here knows no one would sell them any relevant planes the Russians were stonewalling the entire time and even than first thing that started coming in were a couple of yaks and an mi 28

That is/was Iran's problem, not ours. And we will exploit every weakness we find.

 

[ParthianLord]

 

[MH.Yang]

Trump and America's promises are worthless, and war will soon come back. Iranians need to understand that China and Russia can only provide covert assistance and prevent United Nations forces from appearing on the battlefield at this stage. If Iranians want victory and do not want to become fragmented and civil war like Syria, they must first prove their courage and value.

What cannot be obtained on the battlefield can never be obtained through negotiation.

Iran should quickly replenish its military supplies during the brief ceasefire period, and the United States and Israel will inevitably use this period to replenish ammunition.

 

[PakSword]

So when trump said that the strait might be controlled jointly by me and the ayatollah, the 'me' part was referring to Oman?

 

[Watandar]

pretty sure Trump will want the same arrangement as Iraq, Venezuela for Iranian energy exports in return for lifting sanctions.

That may be doable as the more the US is involved in the Iranian energy industry, the lesser will be the chances of war. Iran doesn't care as long as it gets paid. But the Israelis and GCC Arabs will do their absolutest to prevent any such arrangement.

I remember from a podcast that Dick Cheney and his oil buddies tried to patch up relations between the US and Iran in the early 90's , with energy being the basis but the GCC Arabs and Israelis scuttled the effort.

Here is an article about Us companies doing business in Iran 90s to 2000s era.

 

[RescueRanger]

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"The Art of the Deal"
Same energy right about now...

 

[Immortals]

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Let’s see how many of these actually happen. There is no mention of what happens to HEU, enrichment level, missiles, etc.

Hopefully US doesn’t backstab Iran for a 3rd time.

Iran gave away all its leverage for a wishlist that U.S. will “consider”

 

[Al-Zakir]

Let’s see what happens in 2 weeks the pessimism in me says this is a trap but who knows they’re letting them keep everything and giving them total sanctions relief plus they get to keep enrichment(which they are going to have to rebuild again take a a year for small enrichment site) Israel stops all attacks in Lebanon(real ceasefire no more wink wink) and Iran makes the world pay billions of dollars a year to use straits that were free before this war……if it sounds to be good to be true usually is to good to be true

You got to be hopeful. Iran would not surrender and USA would not back off. USA is arrogant when comes to showing off power.

Based on what I hear, I think USA was looking for out of this conflict but didn't know how. Pakistan save the day.

Let's hope for the best but I don't trust zion mad dogs. They probably not satisfy with the ceasefire and may continue fighting.

I will be happy if USA stays out of it. If zion wants to fight then they should fight alone without USA.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Let’s see how many of these actually happen. There is no mention of what happens to HEU, enrichment level, missiles, etc.

Hopefully US doesn’t backstab Iran for a 3rd time.

Iran gave away all its leverage for a wishlist that U.S. will “consider”

They will backstab you again if they have this capability, and they won't simply they don't have the capability anymore.

 

[PakSword]

This really looks like a timeout to have some electrolytes before the next round starts.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Immortals]

Wouldn’t count your chickens before they hatch, still have to have them sign the deal.

US still wants zero enrichment, dismantlement of nuclear of facilities, no HEU on Iranian soil.