Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

War will continue after two weeks as those 10 points negotiated in any capacity is clear and decisive Iran victory for which it is hard to believe that enemy will accept, it is just incredible that Iran managed to put its own paper on negotiation table in comparation when they were bullied and presented with jewish crusader ones before the war, in that sense this is astonishing outcome for Iran.
But if i am proven wrong and these negotiations yield permanent peace agreement it will boost Iran as clear world super power and render gulf countries as relict of post colonial times, jewish entity on mercy of iranian and american balances of power and many other emerged geopolitical divergences in favor of Iran.
I have to repeat it is really hard to conceive that it will be allowed for Iran to be splashed with endless money inflow due consequences of agreement which would allow them further enhancement and gap removals in their military structure at this point as if this agreement and materialized Iran would be untouchable after couple of years after all weapon purchases and upgrades.
 
Prioritizing a ceasefire before negotiating terms is a trap set by the aggressor. Once hostilities cease, harsh conditions will inevitably be imposed in subsequent negotiations. Therefore, a ceasefire must never be agreed upon without a formal agreement based on clearly defined terms.
This is a lesson learned from repeated history.
I can assure you that Trump will impose harsh peace terms, including disarmament, on Iran, which has lost its bargaining chip by opening the Strait of Hormuz.
And having ceased fighting, Iran will no longer have the power to resist, and will be placed in a position where its sovereignty is severely restricted, much like Iraq after its defeat in the Gulf War.
And shortly thereafter, a full scale invasion will begin.
The answer will be clear soon; in a few days, Trump will present Iran with cruel and harsh demands.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
China doesn't want to lump other Jews with Israel.

However, Israel is still quite pissed at China, much more than at Russia.

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China pivoting toward antisemitism, driven by geopolitics, report finds; China rejects ‘unfounded’ claims

JPPI says Beijing's escalating rivalry with the US, alignment with Muslim nations, and adoption of anti-Western narratives is changing its previously positive attitude to Jews
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Chinese are just smart and good at recognizing patterns. They are also able to accept reality as it is and not delude themselves with comforting lies like most Americans.
 
Gripen9 said:
😂 Egyptians trying to insert themselves into the mix

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We really don't care as long as Iran is victorious and gulf countries lose.
whether it was Egypt or Pakistan or Turkey it doesn't matter.
 
RocketLaw said:
I have found out.

This is what actually happened, nothing more nothing less.

A draft message was shared with Washington and Tehran, clearly labeled:
“Draft – Pakistan PM’s Message on X.”

But apparently, basic comprehension is too much to expect from some people, especially from my Indian friends.

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Even though Trump and Israel can never be trusted, you have to give credit to Pakistan’s sophisticated statecraft.
 
tower9 said:
The world is a confusing place if you’re a neoliberal scumbag shill like Mehdi Hassan
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All liberal Muslims like him want the west to fully accept Islam, in the meantime to ditch China.

This type of group was largely cultivated during the Obama era.

The Obama group wanted a world with mostly race-mixing people to follow the western ideology, and they got largely backfired by the white supremacists like MAGA.

That's why an open white supremacist like Trump can break all the norms and become the US president twice.
 
tower9 said:
Chinese are just smart and good at recognizing patterns. They are also able to accept reality as it is and not delude themselves with comforting lies like most Americans.
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Well, if you can go to see the Chinese community among the military/geopolitics, and you can see many people have more qualification than most think tanks in the US by having a deeper understanding of the human history.
 
I fail to understand thanklessness of iranian members, a prolonged war would eventually hurt Iran more…. Yous can’t even hit US mainland even if it nukes you…. It’s better to take the days off from war and prepare better measures than to be the meat for meat grinder
 
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Iran’s Supreme National Security Council says talks with US representatives will begin in Islamabad on Friday under Pakistan’s mediation and may last up to 15 days, following a limited pause in hostilities.

Tehran said the move does not signal the end of the war, adding that any final cessation depends on meeting its conditions, including sanctions relief, guarantees against future attacks, and regional arrangements.

It also said it has proposed a 10-point framework covering compensation, the withdrawal of US forces, and the Strait of Hormuz, while warning its forces remain ready to respond to any violations.
 
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