Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

 

[Himalayan]

I wasn't wrong, it seems. Trump says that the Chinese convinced the Iranians to accept the ceasefire.

So, the vetoes of Russia and China weren't a coincidence as I said. It was an exchange for Iran's surrender to the US ceasefire.

China and Russia vetoed a resolution that would have authorized force-----that’s the opposite of forcing Iran to surrender. The ceasefire came from Pakistan’s mediation, not a backroom deal with the veto. And Iran thanked China for the veto. Your timeline and logic don’t hold up.

 

[Cateusm]

Indeed. They agreed to be used and abused. They were calling for war on Iran for years and now they reaped what they sowed.

I hope they have enough brain cells to realize that they can't be protected by a power that cannot protect itself and cannot control urges to drag them to war.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I wasn't wrong, it seems. Trump says that the Chinese convinced the Iranians to accept the ceasefire.

So, the vetoes of Russia and China weren't a coincidence as I said. It was an exchange for Iran's surrender to the US ceasefire.

There will be no peace, the next saga could be China/Taiwan in the Asia-Pacific.

Then the truce in the Middle East will be disrupted again.

It is just a pause for the next bigger event.

Our incompetent ministry of foreign affairs will only have triggered a much bigger war with their soft stance.

 

[Garcia Sea]

The ceasefire has divided even this forum so much. So what do you think is going on inside the Iranian government and military? It's clear that there is serious division and conflict. This is exactly what the aggressor is trying to manipulate by repeatedly proposing temporary ceasefires. This is a fundamental principle in Western diplomacy. There is no doubt that discontent is swirling within the military and morale has plummeted.

 

[Meengla]

pretty sure Trump will want the same arrangement as Iraq, Venezuela for Iranian energy exports in return for lifting sanctions.

When it comes to the Middle East, rational thought is often absent in multiple countries. With all due respect, your post betrays a naivete about the Middle East: There is not only the natural resources, which is typical in geopolitics but also there are great emotional and civilizational issues around the Holy Places and there is the Israeli desire to expand and to bully everyone in the region. And Israel makes Washington do irrational things, contrary to America's own interests and right now Netanyahu has his man in the White House. Watch what's happening in Lebanon these days.

 

[Tom_Cruise]

It's only good news if it lasts for years, not just 2 weeks.

It won't even last 2 weeks. Israel has never honoured any peace agreement. They are opportunistic rats and will attack Iran anytime they see their military rebuilding or sight any TELs.

Expect many drone attacks from sleeper cells and Israel to remain silent.

 

[SABRE]

While there is a high degree of elation on this ceasefire, primarily because of the escalation to unacceptable levels being subverted and that too by Pakistan's efforts, I cannot help but give due consideration to this post by Spanish PM.

 

[Garcia Sea]

It is a farce to think that the Zionists, who have never observed a ceasefire in the history of the Great cosmos, will observe one this time.

 

[Trailer23]

I know your burning. Relax - burnol os an excellent option

 

[r3alist]

 

[KAL-EL]

When it comes to the Middle East, rational thought is often absent in multiple countries. With all due respect, your post betrays a naivete about the Middle East: There is not only the natural resources, which is typical in geopolitics but also there are great emotional and civilizational issues around the Holy Places and there is the Israeli desire to expand and to bully everyone in the region. And Israel makes Washington do irrational things, contrary to America's own interests and right now Netanyahu has his man in the White House. Watch what's happening in Lebanon these days.

"The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars, But in ourselves that we are underlings."

 

[Flotilla]

While there is a high degree of elation on this ceasefire, primarily because of the escalation to unacceptable levels being subverted and that too by Pakistan's efforts, I cannot help but give due consideration to this post by Spanish PM.

I agree with him. After this ceasefire, priority is Lebanon. Without Lebanon there is no Security for Irán. Netanyahu will break first Hizbollah and when finished... Again against Irán. He will never stop.

 

[Bengal71]

I know we joke about him. But becharay aj kal bimar hain. Do dua for him .

Lal topi guy has some good desires and objectives for the ummah and very hawkish about how to deal with the enemies of the ummah, I like him in that regard. Although some of the things he says are unrealistic.

 

[lightning f57]

it's legally classified as an international strait as per article 37 of UNCLOS.

International law is dead. We are in the law of the jungle now.