Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KAL-EL]

You can choosh more rational politicians

Even in the last decade, multiple Arab states made positive moves, Abraham accord's, etc

Their was a pathway to peace

All Israel did, was increase illegal settlements, occupy more territory and increase the oppression

This Israeli behaviour could be moderated IF the U.S and West behaved more rationally and pulled Israel up, gave them consequences and even sanctions for their behaviour

This whole situation could have been avoided, if Israels psychosis was controlled and every horrendous Israeli action wasn't given more support


Israel has condemned itself and the Jewish people with their behaviour and it only got this bad because of the mindless support given to Israel by the U.S


Its upto the U.S population to correct the malaise they have entered

Blaming individual citizens for their country's action is silly.

You of course have the right to your thoughts but it's not like I'm going to blame you for the actions of your home country

Even if I thought there was something that I disagreed with.

. That is all...

 

[Aziqbal]

Is this true

 

[RealNapster]

Trust me, every person in Iran who wants Iran to succeed is telling them to build nukes. Khamenei fucked up with his fatwa and it cannot be undone easily.

But the new supreme leader can issue another fatwa this time allowing it. But only issue this fatwa when iran is ready to detonate the bomb within next 15 minutes.

Its no more about Iranian success, it's about Iranian survival.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The China Iran Railway will begin operation in May 2025, with an annual transportation capacity of 50 million tons.

The Gwadar port in Pakistan and the China Pakistan railway can also be used in southern Iran.


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Will the USN attempt to blockade Pakistani ships in Pakistani territorial waters transporting oil ? Lets see... Pakistan of course, has not been paying any tolls.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

But the new supreme leader can issue another fatwa this time allowing it. But only issue this fatwa when iran is ready to detonate the bomb within next 15 minutes.

Its no more about Iranian success, it's about Iranian survival.

The problem is that most of our nuclear facilities are gone already.
Most importantly, our heavy water and uranium metal conversion facilities have been destroyed.

 

[Goenitz]

They should. It’s much easier for them to fire some drones at big ships than to fire MRBMs at Israel. And now we need their help since Trump has dramatically escalated.

A single ship stuck in Suez is as good as bab-ul-mandab is closed.

 

[Himalayan]

Dude, you are being insufferable.
Nobody is talking about Pakistan or her role as "the mediator". You love to insert Pakistan into the discussion even when it is absolutely irrelevant because a failed meeting was held in Islamabad. As if that's the only thing that has mattered after 40 days of war with two of the world's most powerful nuclear states!

The issue is not who mediates what. I cannot care less about who the mediator is. The mediator can be a village in Luxembourg for all I care. The issue is that the US and Iran cannot reach a lasting truce without one side accepting defeat. This is the heart of the matter. Neither Iran, nor the United States, is ready for giving up on their core demands because this war hasn't ended yet. This war is far from over to sit at the negotiating table.

We are talking about the fate of war, which can fundamentally change the region for the decades to come, not Pakistan or her role as the mediator. So, please stop being so obsessed with yourself.

Diplomacy is a process not the end result my friend, Pakistan = the only phone line that works between US & Iran. No mediator = no truce. And yes, a nuclear-armed village beats a village in Luxembourg.

 

[IceCold]

Is this true

The middle plane looks like a tanker of sorts. It isn't an airliner. If the video is authentic, it's a lot of jets. PAF must have felt the need, and the threat was very real.

 

[Immortals]

Did China try to break the U.S. naval blockades on Venezuela or Cuba for you to raise such a scenario?

In any case, I guess we’ll find out:

China hasn’t even begun tapping its oil reserves (1B+ barrels) or the over 30million barrels floating near the teapot refineries waiting to be called into harbor.

Plus they still have access to oil thru Saudi Arabia Red Sea.

This means China can wait weeks before having to be involved in any capacity.

 

[Flotilla]

I believe the orange idiot means that all shipments to and from the Strait of Hormuz that are related to Iran will be blocked. Not all shipments.

Try It. Must have 5 or 6 destroyers to do so... And out of 300 km range.
Ghadir is a very old known missile for the US Navy, but again. Shooting them down needs much more money than building them. Not to mention other cheap assets like Shaheds with seekers capable of targeting DDGs and small RHIBS deployed for inspections.

Orange man is desperated.

 

[ShapurII]

Diplomacy is a process not the end result my friend, Pakistan = the only phone line that works between US & Iran. No mediator = no truce. And yes, a nuclear-armed village beats a village in Luxembourg.

Is that what you understood from my post?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Is this true

That video is a US video of a military plane(look at the tail of the plane, some air refuelling hose ? )

 

[Shags101]

Trump declares US Navy will begin blockading Strait of Hormuz ‘effective immediately’

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www.timesofisrael.com

Yep I was just about to post it called it so his great plan is to choke off the world entirely can’t wait till Monday oil is going to skyrocket yes big oil is going to make a mint in America but Americans are about to see something they never thought of 6 to 8 dollars a gallon fairly rapidly