US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[VCheng]

It’s Irans choice. Terminal economic collapse or concede to US demands. They no longer control the Strait and don’t have the leverage.

They played their strongest card and it backfired. They lost control of the Strait, Brent crude is under $100, US energy exports are at all time highs, and stocks are higher now than prewar.

Wars ebb and flow like that as a matter of course, but it is the endpoint that matters. We are a long way away from that as of yet.

How it ends remains to be seen.

 

[Musings]

Reports that Iran offered 5 years of no enrichment and to dilute their HEU and was rejected by Trump. The leverage is shifting to the US.

Once again not citing the source and just spamming. Go to the cooler room for a few days

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Iran knows how to live with sanctions, they have been living with them since 1980s, the world is under 4weeks of Iranian sanctions and the world is going into meltdown it seems…

Iran is winning strategically.

Planting season is underway in the Northern Hemisphere. The effects of this will be noticeable.

 

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These keep getting better and better

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[wangdefa]

The US is stacking Ws left and right:

- Blockade is on with total control of the Strait of Hormuz
- Brent crude is $94 despite the war and blockade
- Stocks are back to prewar highs
- PPI/CPI inflation soft
- Record high energy exports
- The US now has total control of the Venezuelan oil industry
- Defense partnership with Indonesia to gain control over the Strait of Malacca

Is this the American version of the Zionist Declaration of Independence?
I'm curious, who's the boss, the U.S. or Israel?

 

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[SolarWarden]

Is this the American version of the Zionist Declaration of Independence?
I'm curious, who's the boss, the U.S. or Israel?

Instead of going off topic why don't you counter his post with detail analysist?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Instead of going off topic why don't you counter his post with detail analysist?

The point I believe he is making is that Raptor seemingly cherry picks what he wants to report.

Granted, wangdefa should try to refrain from the usual adjectives.

 

[The SC]

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So it's taken basically 5 maybe 6 weeks for the market to return to where it was just prior to the start of the current conflict.

 

[SolarWarden]

So it's taken basically 5 maybe 6 weeks for the market to return to where it was just prior to the start of the current conflict.

It will very likely take until July for gas prices to go back to their normality for summer season.... if the war ends by this month with strait being fully open.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It will very likely take until July for gas prices to go back to their normality for summer season.... if the war ends by this month with strait being fully open.

I for one am hoping for gasoline prices to drop. Have a summer trip planned. Adult summer camp (with firearms) at Camp Perry. Will be there for a little over two weeks followed by a trip through Tulsa and Dallas to see friends on the way back.

If not, or worse, Iran decides to sink a tanker, it will be an expensive trip.

 

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Ok so hear me out.... Orangeman is saying the war is over, likely meant it's about over, and he pulls off a deal with US getting Iran's nuke making capability (the most important) and almost all the rest, Trump's blockade will go down as a genius move because once he implemented the blockade Iran started panicking knowing they couldn't do anything to stop it and got them to agree to talk again. If what I posted happens of course and kinetic hostilities end.

 

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[Davey Crockett]

Netanyahu Says the Trump Administration Gives Him Reports on Iran Talks Every Day​

The Israeli prime minister said US Vice President JD Vance spoke with him after the Pakistan talks
by Dave DeCamp | April 13, 2026 at 4:33 pm ET | Iran, Israel
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that he spoke with Vice President JD Vance after the US-Iran talks in Pakistan and described the call as part of a daily report the Trump administration provides him.

“I spoke yesterday with Vice President J.D. Vance. He called me from his plane on his way back from Islamabad. He reported to me in detail, as this administration does every day, about the development of the negotiations,” Netanyahu said at a cabinet meeting, according to Axios reporter Barak Ravid.

The comments from Netanyahu highlight the close coordination between the US and Israel on Iran. Ravid reported in early March that US envoy Steve Witkoff and President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who has known Netanyahu since he was a child, were speaking to Netanyahu and other Israeli officials nearly every day. Witkoff and Kushner led the negotiations with Iran in the lead-up to the war and both attended the Pakistan talks.

Netanyahu speaks with Kushner while greeting US officials in the West Wing Lobby of the White House, Monday, September 29, 2025 (White House photo)
A March 4 report from Ravid for Axios reads: “A US official said special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner talk almost every day to Netanyahu, to the director of Mossad David Barnea, and to other Israeli officials — and that regardless of ups and downs in the past, the coordination over the last month was very close.”

Netanyahu said in his comments on Monday that he and Vance discussed an “explosion” in the US-Iran talks, which he blamed on Iran. The Israeli leader claimed that Tehran had violated its ceasefire agreement with the US by not fully opening the Strait of Hormuz, but Iran didn’t take the step to open the waterway in response to Israel’s escalation of its bombing campaign in Lebanon.

The original ceasefire announcement issued by Pakistan’s prime minister, which the US had approved, said that the deal includes a truce in Lebanon, but the US backtracked on that commitment after Israel kept bombing the country.

“The explosion came from the American side, which could not tolerate Iran’s blatant violation of the agreement to enter the negotiations. The agreement was that they would cease fire, and the Iranians would immediately open the gates. They did not do that. The Americans could not accept that,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu also said that Vance told him the US priority was related to Iran’s nuclear program. “He also made it clear to me that the main issue on the agenda for President Trump and the United States is the removal of all enriched material, and ensuring that there is no more enrichment in the coming years, and that could be in decades, no enrichment within Iran. That is their focus, and of course it is also important to us,” he said.

Joe Kent, the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, who resigned in opposition to the war with Iran, has described the US demand for Iran to commit to never enriching uranium as a “poison pill” in the negotiations that serves Israel’s interest.

“Upcoming negotiations will fail if we don’t restrain the Israelis & stop giving them access to our decision-making. The Israelis push for zero uranium enrichment because they know it’s a poison pill for Iran & will result in the war continuing,” Kent said on X in response to Netanyahu’s comments. “Iran has committed to not developing or obtaining a nuclear weapon since 2003. A deal can be reached about uranium enrichment levels & monitoring – ending the war & opening the [Strait of Hormuz]. This can only happen if we treat the Israelis like the junior partner & put our interests 1st.”