US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Gripen9]

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There is nothing Fast Tape can't fix.

My dad used to tell how they operated aircraft in 71 with literally a dalda ka canister riveted on bullet holes between sorties
The crew chief would make a judgment call to see if the bullet/fragment had not damaged any internal system/wiring, then just flatten a can and rivet it. tell the pilot not to take over X ft

 

[PakFactor]

@AZ_HighCountry it is sad to see that the nation that produced James Forrestal now has to put up with this nonsense.

 

[SolarWarden]

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I'll show myself out now.

 

[RescueRanger]

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I'll show myself out now.
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lol

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry I have been away. the GCC, Americans and Iranians deploy spoofing along that region which is why you will see a lot of misrepresentation - this was prior to MQ4C's operating heavily in region that day
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- where there is a MQ4C, this is also a P8. I believe this was to provide overwatch for the USS Frank E. Petersen Jr that is alleged to have entered and exited the strait - just power projection at this point.

Interesting the USS Frank E.Peterson Jr is a mine hunter:
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Following on from my last post, where you see a MQ4C - a P8 isn't far behind.

Seems this P8 likely providing holding pattern overwatch for USS Ford awaiting transit through Suez.

 

[Fatman17]

 

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[KAL-EL]

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I'll believe it when I see it

 

[EugeneP]

I'll believe it when I see it

I am too lazy for that. I just automatically consider it a bluff.

 

[gambit]

Well, I don't really have time to go through the points one by one, and I don't see how this is actually related to the Iran war. So I will just say here, we can agree to disagree on all your points.

But it does relate to the current US-Iran War. The US is the overwhelming superiority over Iran in military, economic, and political powers over Iran.

But I will just say this, people who argue "Might is right" usually weren't thinking about it on the other side of the equation. The question is not whether or not "Might is right," the question is whether or not you will always be in that position. Can we always be number one? What happens if China comes and bites us in the ass? Or god forbid, what if the EU chooses China over us?

Absent God, might is right is exactly what keeps the global order. If the US recedes, ala the UK or any other European powers, then whoever comes next will still act the same, in other words, impose what is 'right' based on might. Great powers will/have always fight to keep their positions and the US is no different.

In international affairs: Might IS right.

The US does not need to join any international organization to keep our values. The US does not need the UN to believe that racism is evil, for example. The US abolished slavery before the UN, but does the UN do anything about the modern day slavery?

What is modern slavery?

What is modern slavery? Find out where modern slavery happens today, the numbers behind it and who is affected.

www.antislavery.org

The US does not need to be in NATO to defend specific allies, Europe or anywhere else.

The US should either reform or withdraw from NATO, and withdraw from the UN.

 

[mythbuster]

what if walking away last week by both sides was just face saving and they will agree to end it this weekend

Anyway you spin it , the bottom line is no more war ....why is it so difficult to appreciate my Nostradamus like instincts ?

 

[PakFactor]

Anyway you spin it , the bottom line is no more war ....why is it so difficult to appreciate my Nostradamus like instincts ?

In Pakistan, I've seen rari wala discussions on problems and solutions, so to some extent, every Pakistani has a solution...

Not that I'm shooting down your optimism about the conflict ending, I, too, wish for it to end. But at the same time, I'm very cautious, as it will be just a lull in the conflict for another time. Wouldn't be surprised Eric Trump Jr. coming into office [someday] and saying Iran tried taking out my father, and thus beginning another Iraq-style war. At this time, one can expect anything.

 

[mythbuster]

In Pakistan, I've seen rari wala discussions on problems and solutions, so to some extent, every Pakistani has a solution...

Not that I'm shooting down your optimism about the conflict ending, I, too, wish for it to end. But at the same time, I'm very cautious, as it will be just a lull in the conflict for another time. Wouldn't be surprised Eric Trump Jr. coming into office [someday] and saying Iran tried taking out my father, and thus beginning another Iraq-style war. At this time, one can expect anything.

My friend , right after Hamas attack on Israel I made a catagorical statement / claim right here on PDF... you can dig it out if want to......1) complete destruction of Hamas...done .....2) end of Assad regime....done ....3 ) neutralisation of Iran ...done .....4 ) dismantling of Hezbollah and writ of Lebanese government over all of it's territory...work in progress , will be completed in next few weeks..... sometimes rahri walas display better judgement than Harvard and Oxford type Babbitts ...

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[Fatman17]

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