Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

Short video of CNN's Nick Roberts from Islamabad --still in Islamabad!! -- and from a White House corresponded. Everything is pointing toward a major deal coming up. I don't think Iranians are in a mood to settle for another 'ceasefire' like about the June 2025 one.

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[nervouscar]

If Trump had not won and Kamala Harris had won in November 2024 then Israel, which was at its knees by late 2024, would be forced by Kamala to behave and thus she was widely feared and hated by the Israelis and their supporters in America. Trump's victory was something the Israelis, especially Netanyahu really really wanted and they worked toward that.
But then how can I claim some events which have not happened as much as I am confident of my understanding of what would have happened. It is a moot point now.

lolz.. @ " forced by kamala devi to behave". Here is some easy search returns

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Inshort answer they have plans , roadmaps with timelines..when they have to do something their is reason created with response either disproportunate or meagre one..depending on demand for their wishes..

 

[LeonBlack08]

I saw just a few minutes starting minute 7. So learning from the June 2025 conflict, Iran was better prepared now. Logically speaking, then, this ceasefire works more for Iran. As many have said: The Americans and the Israelis didn't need the ceasefire to rearm themselves. There is a reason why only the Israelis don't like the current ceasefire.
The ongoing ceasefire work better for Iran!!

Exactly. US can probably move some interceptors from other theatres to defend Israel, it still can't match rate of production of the Iranian missiles supposedly going on in the underground missile cities, largely unaffected by the war so far. THAAD is produced at may be 6-7 per month, compared to hundreds of missiles and drones on the Iran side.

Iran agreeing to ceasefire still kept the Strait of Hormuz closed - this time by US blockade. Therefore the economic impact on the rest of the world hasn't changed. But if you look at the US stock market, people are behaving as if all is back to normal. Tech stocks are up again significantly, and Energy stocks are down. This is detached from reality because the ground reality has not changed at all. Oil, fertilizer, helium supplies are still shut down through persian gulf. This stinks of another market manipulation to get Trump family and buddies extremely rich the moment war restarts.

This entire ceasefire is simply an US ploy to get resupply and get the troops it brought to acclimatize and prep for the possible land invasion. Iran is just playing along to get themselves ready as well. Since Prof Marandi was part of the delegation and effectively an Iranian govt spokesperson - it is good to see that Iranians are not falling for this trap and getting themselves ready for the next round.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Meengla]

lolz.. @ " forced by kamala devi to behave". Here is some easy search returns

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You guys have no idea how the American politics works! The influence of $$ during the campaigns. Every American President, to varying degrees since Bush senior is increasingly beholden to the Israel Lobby. Many of those who tried to raise voices against Israel were ousted in the Primary stages!
But suffice is to say why the overwhelming majority of the Israelis favored Trump over Kamala and I don't blame the Israelis for that.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Thus far, both sides are claiming great successes, and both sides are only partly correct, IMO based on the capabilities demonstrated. What capabilities have not been revealed thus far are impossible for me to opine on, but we can wait and see.

The negotiations that are ongoing are the important thing to follow for right now, since they will determine the final outcome.

I got the message " Wait and See". a universal truth, we all know, and repeated by you gazillion times.

You stated above what both sides are claiming, that we all know.

Humble request was, Please share with us, what we might see or expected future outcome, based on your knowledge and understandings.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

 

[Meengla]

Huge b@lls with 0 I.Q, livid under sanctions for almost 48 years but did not develop nukes, either you completely abandoned the idea or get it what a shame.

Sanctions or not, Iran could have done far better given their immense human and natural resources. They, along with Iraq, are the true potential superpowers of the Middle East, surpassing even Israel. But time to learn from the past mistakes and do better in future.

 

[VCheng]

Please share with us, what we might see or expected future outcome, based on your knowledge and understandings.

The audience here is not suitable to share my views.

 

[nervouscar]

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Haha i knew he would use "fantastic"

 

[Aziqbal]

What it does tell me, with the combo or J10/Jf17 blk3 with Erieye among the midst, Pakistan doesnt give a sh|t about F35s threat.

the fact that Pakistan met the top leaders of Iran wanted by Israel for assassination shows a lot

Pakistan had 20 jets in the air most likely J10CP + JF17 Block III

 

[Meengla]

I got the message " Wait and See". a universal truth, we all know, and repeated by you gazillion times.
You stated above what both sides are claiming, that we all know.
Humble request was, Please share with us, what we might see or expected future outcome, based on your knowledge and understandings.

You have incredible patience listening to 'water is wet' in every thread! Kudos!!

 

[VCheng]

Huge b@lls with 0 I.Q, livid under sanctions for almost 48 years but did not develop nukes, either you completely abandoned the idea or get it what a shame.

Better to have tried and failed than not tried at all, maybe?

 

[Persian Gulf]

The audience here is not suitable to share my views.

Probably no point in you having that think tank title, then?

 

[ShapurII]

Fortunately, it seems that the so-called US blockade has largely failed, or is rather for propaganda purposes only. Most Iranian shipments can enter and exit the Arabian Sea so far.

Huge b@lls with 0 I.Q, livid under sanctions for almost 48 years but did not develop nukes, either you completely abandoned the idea or get it what a shame.

The worst part is that Iran's nuclear program is extremely small and insufficient for civilian purposes. So, if there's no willingness to obtain nuclear weapons, it is stupid to waste all these resources and lives on it.