Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

[Michael]

What are Pakistan's options when it come to 1500+ km kamikaze drones ?

From a technical standpoint, intercepting suicide drones of the "Shahed-136" type is not difficult.

1. Laser defense systems.
2. Microwave defense systems.
3. Close-in weapon systems (CIWS) utilizing AHEAD ammunition.
4. Electronic jamming systems.
5. Close-range missile defense systems.
...

The crux of the problem lies here:
Suicide drones of the "Shahed-136" type are simply too inexpensive. The adversary can manufacture them on a massive scale with relative ease and then launch them en masse. These defensive systems, however, are not cheap.

When faced with extensive national borders and lines of engagement, it is extremely difficult to secure sufficient funding to construct a complete and comprehensive defensive network.

Consequently, one is compelled to deploy these defensive systems only in critical areas, while being forced to leave the broader regions undefended.

This is an economic war.

 

[RealNapster]

From a technical standpoint, intercepting suicide drones of the "Shahed-136" type is not difficult.

1. Laser defense systems.
2. Microwave defense systems.
3. Close-in weapon systems (CIWS) utilizing AHEAD ammunition.
4. Electronic jamming systems.
5. Close-range missile defense systems.
...

The crux of the problem lies here:
Suicide drones of the "Shahed-136" type are simply too inexpensive. The adversary can manufacture them on a massive scale with relative ease and then launch them en masse. These defensive systems, however, are not cheap.

When faced with extensive national borders and lines of engagement, it is extremely difficult to secure sufficient funding to construct a complete and comprehensive defensive network.

Consequently, one is compelled to deploy these defensive systems only in critical areas, while being forced to leave the broader regions undefended.

This is an economic war.

Sorry if that was confusing, I realize it now.
I was talking about our own 1500+ loitering munution or kamikaze drones. Because we have sarkash kamikaze drone but it's range is 1000 km. We have many other options as well but all of them have less than 1000 km range.

 

[Michael]

Sorry if that was confusing, I realize it now.
I was talking about our own 1500+ loitering munution or kamikaze drones. Because we have sarkash kamikaze drone but it's range is 1000 km. We have many other options as well but all of them have less than 1000 km range.

The "Shahed-136" is a highly successful, low-cost solution for suicide drones. It is constructed entirely using materials and components readily available on the civilian market, driving its final production cost down to the absolute minimum.

Consequently, for Pakistan, the most sensible approach is to simply reverse-engineer it directly. There is no need for you to undertake the development of an entirely new, similar product from scratch.

Given the close relationship between China and Pakistan, I can guarantee that the final unit cost of the "Shahed-136" produced independently by Pakistan will be even lower than Iran's production costs, while simultaneously offering performance superior to that of the original "Shahed-136."
However, were Pakistan to attempt to develop a similar product anew, its cost would undoubtedly be vastly higher than that of this existing platform.

 

[RealNapster]

The "Shahed-136" is a highly successful, low-cost solution for suicide drones. It is constructed entirely using materials and components readily available on the civilian market, driving its final production cost down to the absolute minimum.

Consequently, for Pakistan, the most sensible approach is to simply reverse-engineer it directly. There is no need for you to undertake the development of an entirely new, similar product from scratch.

Given the close relationship between China and Pakistan, I can guarantee that the final unit cost of the "Shahed-136" produced independently by Pakistan will be even lower than Iran's production costs, while simultaneously offering performance superior to that of the original "Shahed-136."
However, were Pakistan to attempt to develop a similar product anew, its cost would undoubtedly be vastly higher than that of this existing platform.

Got it. So the bottom line is that there is not any such platform yet and if Pakistan want to develop one, Shahed 136 copy would be the suitable approach to go.

Thanks

 

[Bilal]

@JamD your assessment of this startup. Real work or vaporware? How significant is it?

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[JamD]

@JamD your assessment of this startup. Real work or vaporware? How significant is it?

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Flynautix (Pvt) Ltd. | 167 followers on LinkedIn. Indigenous Flight Control Systems and UAV Technologies. | Flynautix (Pvt) Ltd. is a Defense-Tech startup capable in the design and development of indigenous Defense grade Flight Control Systems (FCS) for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs). Our...

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Places like these are dime a dozen. Might be super successful in 10 years who knows.

 

[RealNapster]

Places like these are dime a dozen. Might be super successful in 10 years who knows.

Do we know anything about Sarkash drone laucher/ launch vehicle ? Because we have seen the drone but I haven't seen it's teat video or lauch vehicle .

 

[Toxic]

Shahed Sized drone being used as a target drone

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[Malik]

Shahed Sized drone being used as a target drone

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GIDS Baaz delta loitering munition

 

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[Pakistanithinktank]

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Lt Gen Dushyant Singh mentioned that India will try to make 100,000 drones per year.

What are the possible options for Pakistan?

 

[Bilal]

Interesting concept, can be done on Mashak or even Shahpar drone, targeting can also be automated instead of FOV style control:

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[m52k85]

I hope this is one Turkish product we are not aspiring for. Suicide drones needing runways to launch is a non-starter.

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[MirageV3ff]

I hope this is one Turkish product we are not aspiring for. Suicide drones needing runways to launch is a non-starter.

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Performative suicide drone

 

[falcon34]

I hope this is one Turkish product we are not aspiring for. Suicide drones needing runways to launch is a non-starter.

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So the Yiha3 has 1000 kilometers of range?, that's what the Turks are claiming.
Secondly how good was the performance of Yihas in May war.
@Panzerkiel
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