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IAEA is nothing but Mossad infiltrated organization. Hasn't Iran learned it's lessons? Did it not see what happened with Iraq and that fake report by IAEA for not cooperating and WMDs? If the US and Israel can have N weapons, the other countries can at least have a nuclear programme without any western oversight. Iran needs to be prepared to fight another round but not compromise otherwise it will be Iraq all over again.

 

[LC150]

Cartoon Network !!!!

compared the rest of clown shows on hand... ?..lol

there is a reason why he has 6.2M+ subscribers while patarani TV have only their own staff watching

 

[Mav3rick]

There is zero chance of a ground invasion from Pakistan. At most Pakistan would defend ksa.. ground invasion from Pakistan would be suicide for us....there is no unfortunately in this. Pakistan can't attack Iran or provide gateway to us forces, end of story..... We have committed this mistake once and still paying gravely but once can be considered a mistake not twice..... That will be the end of the ideological basis of Pakistan and the support that establishment has left if we attack and support attacking Muslim countries... The government also knows this and wouldn't take any such measure.

I also went crazy with the extreme. In that extreme scenario where we absolutely must wage war on Iran for the protection/assistance of GCC countries and to protect our own interests in the region, invasion may also become a viable option. And US would also be able to put boots on the ground through Pakistan.

At the end of the day, Iran must consider how much damage it still wants to suffer before it settles the matters.

 

[KingQamaR]

I think iran woll end nuclear research. Its all destroyed and US will never allow iran to redevelop. So why posture ?

Irans nuclear facilities are under mountains there is at least 1KM of thickness rock at least or they are very deep where it is possible to build them, no one makes bunkers on the surface or just under the ground, for example I did some researching on the launch capsules of the Americans minuteman are about 20 metres of reinforced concrete and its construction technology from 50-60 years ago, let alone now nowadays, Iranians were very smart they build their entire infrastructure nuclear under solid rock mountains what can a bomb dropped on rock mountains do to it.

 

[Yasser76]

If JD comes before Trump will his group be called the AdVANCE party!?

 

[KingQamaR]

It is a justified demand by Iran to control the strait of Hormuz? How can anyone even say that?

Moreover, how can any country demand what 2 other countries can and cannot do, like have bases in each others countries or have military allianes etc.?

These 2 demands by Iran are absolute nonsense and cannot be agreed upon by anyone. What can be agreed upon are the sanctions and release of Iranian assets and funds frozen overseas.

As for the enrichment matter, Iran can demand support for a peaceful Nuclear Energy program under IAEA supervision, which I guess would not be a problem.

And I think it is time Iran also realizes that it has very little leverage. If push does indeed come to shove, the US can obliterate Iranian infrastructure and literally send Iran back to the stone age by destroying all the power plants, bridges, water reservoirs, oil fields and similar other targets. No electricity, no water, no real infrastructure, no agriculture, and no money; end of story for Iran. I literally pray that Iran does not overplay her hand because I guess after this round, nobody is coming to Iran’s aid. Especially if Iran attacks the GCC again which will compel the GCC countries to enter the war. If the GCC countries do enter the war, Saudi Arabia may compel Pakistan to defend it which would mean another front against Iran. And it would potentially mean, despite all our efforts and intentions, ground offensive against Iran from Pakistan and gateway for the US forces as well. This could literally mean the US takes over Iranian Oil.

Let’s be clear friend; US-Israel strikes on Iran led to this. Islamic Republic of Iran suffered an illegal attack which has killed thousands and caused billions in destruction, Iran should now charge them a toll in Hormuz to pay for these damages.

And international law has been blown out of the water, or hadn’t you noticed. .. thanks to USA arrogance and dumb fuckery. So now might makes right , and Iran has the guns to control Hormuz and Orange man is impotent to stop it.

 

[Yasser76]

Looks like talks are off according to Iran Foreign Ministry just now....

 

[arsalan345]

I think talks will fail and this is the last chance. Iran has left Pakistan red faced by first agreeing to some demands and later rejecting it because the real entity that controls Iran is irgc. On Iranian missile program, neither Iran nor America will compromise.

Pakistan tried its best. After this last attempt, Pakistan should better stay away or otherwise we will be caught in the crosswinds. Pakistan tried to bring peace and stability in Iran but irgc is running Iran and current Iranian delegation doesn't represent irgc.

We have thousands of Pakistanis in Arab. We extended Iran a lifeline. This is one last chance for Iran. After this, Pakistan should fully commit to defend Arab as war will be devastating for the region. Money comes from Arabs. When India pak happened last year, Arabs tried to resolve that but failed. Iran was nowhere to be seen. Try one last time to solve this Iran American issue.

This should be last time as our own reputation as mediator are at stake.

If talk fail or Iranian delegation say no, then stop all communication. Sometimes war is the only solution. Pakistan did well. We should care about our own image. Stop behaving like a mediator. We have never done this type of stuff before. No means no. Pakistan must care about it's own interest which is oil and money.

 

[Yasser76]

I think talks will fail and this is the last chance. Iran has left Pakistan red faced by first agreeing to some demands and later rejecting it because the real entity that controls Iran is irgc. On Iranian missile program, neither Iran nor America will compromise.

Pakistan tried its best. After this last attempt, Pakistan should better stay away or otherwise we will be caught in the crosswinds. Pakistan tried to bring peace and stability in Iran but irgc is running Iran and current Iranian delegation doesn't represent irgc.

We have thousands of Pakistanis in Arab. We extended Iran a lifeline. This is one last chance for Iran. After this, Pakistan should fully commit to defend Arab as war will be devastating for the region. Money comes from Arabs. When India pak happened last year, Arabs tried to resolve that but failed. Iran was nowhere to be seen. Try one last time to solve this Iran American issue.

This should be last time as our own reputation as mediator are at stake.

Agreed, this is no way for Iran to treat Pakistan after all we have done to help. Cant help a person who refuses to help themselves...

 

[F.O.X]

I am afraid things in Iran will go towards civil unrest if they continue on this trajectory, IRGC are hell bent on not following anything the gov says.

 

[hasn2009]

Can hardly blame Iran, they tried to negotiate but US/Israel were secretly conspiring to attack Iran behind the cover of negotiations. Even now, Trump is constantly talking war and destruction, would you guys trust Israel/US intentions at this moment?

 

[Michael]

...... IRGC are hell bent on not following anything the gov says.

Is this strange? It is a perfectly normal phenomenon.

The IRGC has never belonged to the Iranian government, nor is it loyal to the Iranian government. Consequently, they do not accept any directives from the Iranian government.

Btw, the same applies to China. The PLA does not belong to the Chinese government, nor does it pledge allegiance to it.

 

[RescueRanger]

Looks like talks are off according to Iran Foreign Ministry just now....

Is someone going to let bro know:

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Is this strange? It is a perfectly normal phenomenon.

The IRGC has never belonged to the Iranian government, nor is it loyal to the Iranian government. Consequently, they do not accept any directives from the Iranian government.

Btw, the same applies to China. The PLA does not belong to the Chinese government, nor does it pledge allegiance to it.

But PLA are not bunch of lunatics like IRGC who are probably compromised by Mossad. Typical Israeli play to convince USA to bomb west asian countries apart from compromising American politicians through Epstein files.