Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[Toxic]

Is it possible that the New TEL camo will be used from now on specifically ARFC in this case as they tested the missile? those green ones are a target for drones in desert terrains

Also looks way better

 

[kimjongun]

Also looks way better

desert/khaki camo = +10km in range

 

[Dreamer]

Is it possible that the New TEL camo will be used from now on specifically ARFC in this case as they tested the missile? those green ones are a target for drones in desert terrains

not all would be used in desert terrain. There are more than one type of terrain in Pakistan. And TEL's are supposed to be mobile.

This TEL also simply labeled as 'F-II' rather than Fatah-II.

 

[safriz]

Something tested years back. PAF censored the weapon in the released footage and never gave the name of the system.

Clearer video:

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It was the Range extension kit or REK , with a simple dumb bomb strapped to it.

 

[HRK]

My understanding of today's F-2 firing is that

- it is now a deployed and operational system with PA

- it is canisterised ready to use rocket system probably for swift response tactical needs

- if both above 'assumptions' are correct then we may assume that F-2 will have a conventional warhead integrated in it all the time with operational units.

- if third assumption is also correct then it mean in this operational training launch it was used with a live warhead which was detonated at the time of impact. it seems this delayed detonation was a deliberate choice

Now the messaging part.

Pakistan'd response to any misadventure would be

- Swift, Deeper and Wide spread (one could chart defence and industrial infrastructure of India from 200 to 300 km from international border)
- with comparatively greater autonomy to the operational Commanders of Rocket Force command
- this will force India to chose either to climb up the escalation lader or deescalate, both would have their own cost and consequences for India and it's political class.

- This is exactly the situation which we were expecting to achieve with Nasr tactical nuclear missile system few years back but now a conventional system could achieve the same effect indicates the 'overwhelming increase of Pakistan's conventional firepower'

- So the message is Pakistan has passed the stage where India had advantage of conventional firepower now the best India could do is to match the conventional firepower unless India decides to use WMD

 

[TAC]

Just a very rude awakening after india smashed Pakistan in May and pak got no answers.
What they are doing now should have been done at least a decade ago.because building up enough stocks takes decades.

‘Smashed Pakistan’ only in Indian wet dreams & Bollywood to cope with the epic humiliation they got handed, which the whole world witnessed.

 

[safriz]

Thats the actual warhead explosion. The test seems to be a live missile, not a dud loaded with cement as warhead .

The biggest explosions are always with the good old air dropped munitions from an aircraft, not missiles.
Thats where having an airforce trumps any conventional missile capabilities.

Missiles are mostly fuel, motor body, shields, electronics and actuators.
All that is for a quick attack with High accuracy, over a distance.
Not a lot of room left for explosives .

On the contrary, aircraft does all the lifting carrying and targeting, and the bomb can do tge actual bomby thing

No comparison between an airstrike explosion and a missile explosion.
Stop doing that .

 

[hasssanali8998]

My understanding of today's F-2 firing is that

- it is now a deployed and operational system with PA

- it is canisterised ready to use rocket system probably for swift response tactical needs

- if both above 'assumptions' are correct then we may assume that F-2 will have a conventional warhead integrated in it all the time with operational units.

- if third assumption is also correct then it mean in this operational training launch it was used with a live warhead which was detonated at the time of impact. it seems this delayed detonation was a deliberate choice

Now the messaging part.

Pakistan'd response to any misadventure would be

- Swift, Deeper and Wide spread (one could chart defence and industrial infrastructure of India from 200 to 300 km from international border)
- with comparatively greater autonomy to the operational Commanders of Rocket Force command
- this will force India to chose either to climb up the escalation lader or deescalate, both would have their own cost and consequences for India and it's political class.

- This is exactly the situation which we were expecting to achieve with Nasr tactical nuclear missile system few years back but now a conventional system could achieve the same effect indicates the 'overwhelming increase of Pakistan's conventional firepower'

- So the message is Pakistan has passed the stage where India had advantage of conventional firepower now the best India could do is to match the conventional firepower unless India decides to use WMD

imho
I think the time the next Op Sindoor happens, we should have pre-selected targets ready to be attacked. As soon as they launch strikes, we launch counter-strikes. This can be achieved because every time they do this randi rona, they give us weeks of whining.
This was the main sticking point last time that I noticed. It was almost like we didn't have any targets and kept repeating, 'Just wait for our response.'

 

[hasssanali8998]

‘Smashed Pakistan’ only in Indian wet dreams & Bollywood to cope with the epic humiliation they got handed, which the whole world witnessed.

good job u fell for ragebait

 

[safriz]

My understanding of today's F-2 firing is that

- it is now a deployed and operational system with PA

- it is canisterised ready to use rocket system probably for swift response tactical needs

- if both above 'assumptions' are correct then we may assume that F-2 will have a conventional warhead integrated in it all the time with operational units.

- if third assumption is also correct then it mean in this operational training launch it was used with a live warhead which was detonated at the time of impact. it seems this delayed detonation was a deliberate choice

Now the messaging part.

Pakistan'd response to any misadventure would be

- Swift, Deeper and Wide spread (one could chart defence and industrial infrastructure of India from 200 to 300 km from international border)
- with comparatively greater autonomy to the operational Commanders of Rocket Force command
- this will force India to chose either to climb up the escalation lader or deescalate, both would have their own cost and consequences for India and it's political class.

- This is exactly the situation which we were expecting to achieve with Nasr tactical nuclear missile system few years back but now a conventional system could achieve the same effect indicates the 'overwhelming increase of Pakistan's conventional firepower'

- So the message is Pakistan has passed the stage where India had advantage of conventional firepower now the best India could do is to match the conventional firepower unless India decides to use WMD

Fateh missile was never built for carrying nuclear weapons, will never carry one.
It doesn't need the highest level of authorisation or codes for being used, and thats a plus .
That was a huge restricting factor during may 2025.
Because the missiles available were dual use and under nuclear force command.

 

[Ak01]

Fateh missile was never built for carrying nuclear weapons,

explain abdali .

 

[Oscar]

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Thats the actual warhead explosion. The test seems to be a live missile, not a dud loaded with cement as warhead .

The biggest explosions are always with the good old air dropped munitions from an aircraft, not missiles.
Thats where having an airforce trumps any conventional missile capabilities.

Missiles are mostly fuel, motor body, shields, electronics and actuators.
All that is for a quick attack with High accuracy, over a distance.
Not a lot of room left for explosives .

On the contrary, aircraft dies all the lifting carrying and targeting, and the bomb can do tge actual bomby thing

No comparison between an airstrike explosion and a missile explosion.
Stop doing that .

good man the laaltain, small man the mombati


Not very clear what you were trying to convey as a point - is it the warhead size(which still could potentially be solid fuel igniting and not a HE warhead but that is conjecture based on video)

 

[Oracle]

Can s400 stop this missile?

One more issue is to track actual location of s400 radar. So many decoys will be there along with it

 

[Ak01]

good man the laaltain, small man the mombati


Not very clear what you were trying to convey as a point - is it the warhead size(which still could potentially be solid fuel igniting and not a HE warhead but that is conjecture based on video)

I think it is solid fuel.

The missile was launched from suparco range and impacted within suparco range

 

[Corax]

It's solid fuel ignition on impact, no live warhead.