Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Bro, we have killed only 13 Americans after 3 direct conflicts with the Americans since 2018. That's pathetic.

There used to be a time that Iran could kill 300 American and NATO soldiers on a single day in Beirut and not give an actual f*ck about it. The Americans and the Israelis have killed well above 6000 Iranians since last year's June and we haven't been able to kill even 30 Americans and Israeli altogether.

If we had fought back for 60-90 days, instead of 40 days, maybe we would've been able to deter the next round of war. But as of now, we lack any sort of deterrence and we're a sitting duck waiting for the US to bomb us again at their time of choosing and convenience.

Iran has wiped multiple U.S bases and radars out of the region and is holding the Hormuz and U.S allies hostage

The U.S genuinely doesn't know what to do

In any conflict the Iranians were always going to take more damage, but Iran is permanent state of the middle east, whilst the U.S is projecting power from a long long way away

If the end result is a Iran controlling the Hormuz and a U.S allies forced to remove U.S bases and cut a deal with Iran, then Iran has prevailed
 
Iran has wiped multiple U.S bases and radars out of the region and is holding the Hormuz and U.S allies hostage

The U.S genuinely doesn't know what to do

In any conflict the Iranians were always going to take more damage, but Iran is permanent state of the middle east, whilst the U.S is projecting power from a long long way away

If the end result is a Iran controlling the Hormuz and a U.S allies forced to remove U.S bases and cut a deal with Iran, then Iran has prevailed
It seems that they do know what to do. They're counting on a naval blockade to force Iran to surrender. Their blockade has already led to a significant devaluation of the Iranian currency and uncontrolled inflation.

Trump and the US do not care about material losses. It's only loss of life that can force Trump to reevaluate his war.
 
Bro…….iran can’t do that cuz immediately it would become a Persian vs Arab war and that really needs to be avoided. We as Pakistanis need to calm all this down and make peace in that region or else our own survival is at stake.
Persian Vs Arab war? You mean the mighty Arab world Consisting of the Mighty KSA, Kuwait and Bahrain? I fancy my chances thank you.
 
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Bro, we have killed only 13 Americans after 3 direct conflicts with the Americans since 2018. That's pathetic.

There used to be a time that Iran could kill 300 American and NATO soldiers on a single day in Beirut and not give an actual f*ck about it. The Americans and the Israelis have killed well above 6000 Iranians since last year's June and we haven't been able to kill even 30 Americans and Israeli altogether.

If we had fought back for 60-90 days, instead of 40 days, maybe we would've been able to deter the next round of war. But as of now, we lack any sort of deterrence and we're a sitting duck waiting for the US to bomb us again at their time of choosing and convenience.
Militarily and politically it makes sense for Iran to attack Arabs instead of Israel or Americans .

Iran lacks the sophistication and airforce to hit pin point targets … HOWEvER …. Knowing their limitations and understanding their situation they see Israel in a broader sense as a part of a coalition of USA/ ARAb and Israel axis of evil …..

Hitting one is hitting all …. When UAE screams their screams are heard in TelAviv and Washington .


They cannot change dynamics 2000 miles away in Israel but defanging Behrain / Kuwait and UAE and making them realize how big of a liability these American bases are for them is a great achievement in itself .

Oman and Qatar not letting Americans use their bases is unheard of ….

So yes Iran may not have changed reality on the ground in Israel and hurt Israel too much (only 5000 houses demaged/ destroyed ) but these Arabs are worst enemy and backstabbers than Israel and hurting them means hurting goals of USA and Israel .

Never in the history American bases were ever eclvacuated and soldiers sent to the hotels to live …. Abandoned American bases …just think about it .

You need to push enemy away from your borders and it provides breathing space … Israel can be dealt long term ….


Also Arabs watched in horror as trillions of worth of weapons couldn’t do shit to defend them and Americans removed their batteries to protect Israel leaving Arabs exposed …

Wake up call for many …. Unless these guys are not asleep but dead
 

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  • For a second day straight, the United Arab Emirates says its air defence systems are currently engaged in shooting down missiles and drones launched from Iran. No immediate comment from Tehran.
  • US President Donald Trump has urged Iran to “do the smart thing” and make a deal, while Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth has said the ceasefire with Iran is “not over” despite escalating tensions in the Strait of Hormuz.
  • The Israeli military has launched new air attacks on southern Lebanon while issuing forced displacement orders for two more towns.
  • Hezbollah has reported several attacks targeting Israeli forces in the region.
  • An Israeli court has extended the detention of two abducted foreign activists from the Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla until Sunday while Israeli forces have conducted multiple raids in the occupied West Bank.
  • Visit our live tracker for the latest casualty figures from across the region.
 
Have you ever seen a super power so desperate that they are literally begging for a deal …. I mean just agree to any deal just sign at the form and Iran being like my wife will extract maximum concessions including money , apology , code of conduct and long term commitment….

Of course both parties will break the deal but Trump is on a short time clock …
 
A 15 year pause is basically a forever pause. They will never let Iran enrich again. And once the HEU is removed, Iran is no longer a threat for full invasion. Apparently no one here has learned anything from Ukraine, Iraq, and Libya giving up their nuclear programs. ...
  • Ukraine, Iraq and Libya gave up their nuclear programs and got destroyed.
  • Iran hasn't given up it's nuclear program, yet it's still getting destroyed.

What's the logic and the moral of the story here? 🤔
 
  • Ukraine, Iraq and Libya gave up their nuclear programs and got destroyed.
  • Iran hasn't given up it's nuclear program, yet it's still getting destroyed.

What's the logic and the moral of the story here? 🤔
Expect the unexpected, probably. Especially with Trump in control.
 
Be careful with a bad deal from US to Iran

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Was that before or after Canada placed a $1.3 billion order for 17 M142 HIMARS launchers from the US?

 
Persian Vs Arab war? You mean the mighty Arab world Consisting of the Mighty KSA, Kuwait and Bahrain? I fancy my chances thank you.
I said it from a Pakistani perspective man…….taking sides here is not our cuppa tea.

You might not be Pakistani and that’s fine, but for us it’s not in our interests to be taking sides here at all.
 

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