Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Tomcats said:
For Sukkur we have only satellite imagery that was released from India for now, whether they release further stuff into the future is yet to be seen.
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Yeah. Maxar could release HD picture of hangar but didn't release imagery of radar roughly 100m meters away.

Tomcats said:
We cannot debunk Chunian through GE imagery due to the resolution being too low to make out whether or not it was hit since the claim is of the radar head. That said, it doesn't prove it got hit through satellite imagery alone. Although, they have HUD footage so... Whether they release it all I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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You can go to google earth and see the imagery for yourself to decide. Also compare with previous imageries. The radar is clearly intact with clear shadow of the head.
 
nervouscar said:
Is there any human cost inflicted on hindustani like they killed children and women telling any story OR we as nation happy to trade human lives with jets that cost pennies to indians.
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Unlike the Indians, the Pakistan Armed Forces didn't sink that low - nor are we interested in targetting their civilians.

Its f#*kups like that (last year) that has landed them in hot waters with all other Nations. Watch their Media (News/Podcast/Interviews) where they clearly say that NO Nation stood by their side.

Out of sheer desperacy they started sending people like Shashi Tharoor to go to (God knows) odd Countries in Africa/Latin America to gain some sympathy or side with them. Does anyone remember the stunt they pulled in Argentina last year?

Does Islam permit us to harm the innocent?

Does Islam permit us to attack the ones who can't defend themselves?

Civilians...? Seriously!

As for the Jets that appear to cost "pennies"... Why is it that it took them nearly 2-decades to finalize the deal of just 36 Rafles (minus 4 now)?

If they really were pennies, they should've gone for over a 100. Why was there such a big scandel involving the previous President of France & Dassault relating to India back in 2020?

Okay..., why haven't they ordered additional Rafales? I mean they boast 'bout them all the time & according to them - they did quite well in Tando...sorry...Sindoor. Why the delay?

Because at the end of the day, as BIG as their Economy is..., its still a 3rd World Nation & they still have homless people all over their Nation.

Pennies..., yeah which is why since Operation Swit Retort the only thing they have inducted have been 36 Rafales & perhaps some TEJAs. Not sure about the latter.
 
kimjongun said:
India claimed the following sites ,
Arifwala
Chunian
Pasrur
SHAHBAZ
Sukkur
2-3 more but the only concrete ones look like Sukkur and the Girrafe radar at shahbaz
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They also claimed Karachi but that seems a bit more spurious considering they have released no evidence for those strikes.
Toxic said:
We have decently high resolution imagery including by the IAF, the problem is that unless you are using fireworks you can't just hit the radar head while leaving the structure without a single burn Mark.

Here's imagery of US site that was hit by a Iran LM the burn marks are clear

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Burn marks and clear structural damage.
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Yes but this depends on the munition, the LM may not be carrying an explosive warhead, or the warhead didn't detonate. Eitherway the kinetic force of the impact would be enough to damage it, the radar head isn't a particularly hardened object. Such damage on a small location is difficult to ascertain through satellite imagery at current resolutions alone.
 
Tomcats said:
They also claimed Karachi but that seems a bit more spurious considering they have released no evidence for those strikes.

Yes but this depends on the munition, the LM may not be carrying an explosive warhead, or the warhead didn't detonate. Eitherway the kinetic force of the impact would be enough to damage it, the radar head isn't a particularly hardened object. Such damage on a small location is difficult to ascertain through satellite imagery at current resolutions alone.
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What a strange argument

Why would the Indians want to minimize their chances of destroying that radar by using a purely kinetic warhead when they can use a explosive one?

Also considering these are stationary targets it could be very likely that Indians used CMs to target these sites whats your argument then?

You are literally doing Olympic level mental gymnastics trying to justify Indian claims
 
Toxic said:
What a strange argument

Why would the Indians want to minimize their chances of destroying that radar by using a purely kinetic warhead when they can use a explosive one?

Also considering these are stationary targets it could be very likely that Indians used CMs to target these sites whats your argument then?

You are literally doing Olympic level mental gymnastics trying to justify Indian claims
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These Radars are literally very close to the border , and india used small UAVs on them like sky striker , Warmat and others . quite a lot of them were shot down
 
Tomcats said:
We cannot debunk Chunian through GE imagery due to the resolution being too low to make out whether or not it was hit since the claim is of the radar head.
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kimjongun said:
idk man , its really hard to put a blind to your trust me bro claims , no hate we all respect your reputation and sources but the shahbaz one seems true idk
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Areesh said:
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but the thing with shahbaz is that it too dint have the burn marks and debre littered
which happened with US radars
 
kimjongun said:
These Radars are literally very close to the border , and india used small UAVs on them like sky striker , Warmat and others . quite a lot of them were shot down
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They only used a handfull of warmates and Skystrikers, these small drones struggle in heavy EW environment, also the Indians have harpys and harops specifically to take out radars so why would they use those?
 
Toxic said:
They only used a handfull of warmates and Skystrikers, these small drones struggle in heavy EW environment, also the Indians have harpys and harops specifically to take out radars so why would they use those?
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According to Farooq bhai we shotdown around 15 Skystrikes and some warmates with EW , which proves your point.

Harops were used in lahore (little success for them but costed us a life of a jawan) ,
Harops were mostly not much of a succes
 
kimjongun said:
According to Farooq bhai we shotdown around 15 Skystrikes and some warmates with EW , which proves your point.

Harops were used in lahore (little success for them but costed us a life of a jawan) ,
Harops were mostly not much of a succes
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I think one success they did have was they managed to achieve the shutdown some radars atleast for some time until they were neutralized.
 
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