Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

please stop this pointless squabble with our supporters

if you want to argue and insult someone, there are plenty of better people for that on this very thread

I don't think I insulted them.

I am not arguing with them. They are arguing with me. Last time I checked, they quoted my posts and started an argument, not the other way around. If they do not like what I write, they can simply ignore it. I write what I think is true, based on what we are witnessing and have witnessed in the last 15 years, and I will continue to do so.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Remember when Omid Djalili (Bahai British-Iranian comedian) said that a video from Minab, Iran (where the terrorist US bombed a school and slaughtered more than 150 Iranian school girls) was AI generated because the kids obviously looked Pakistani, not Iranian:



These people have internalised a strange mixture of self-hatred and propagandised Western supremacy and the result is a cult-like group of uber fascists who have no connection to Iran and would rather wave Israeli/American flags.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Saudis are fighting with Emiratis online lol

 

[Flotilla]

Let's see. Israel had a strategy of striking and destroying its enemies violently. Now, since then, Israel has flattened Gaza in the literal sense of the word, effectively weakened Hamas, occupied parts of the Lebanese territory, killed Hasan Nasrallah, killed Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, killed Sinwar, has witnessed the overthrow of Assad while occupying more Syrian territory, has killed Iran's president and the Supreme Leader on top of tens of other generals, high-ranking politicians and our nuclear scientists.

Israel strategy was to "change the face of entire Middle East", do you remember?.

Militarily they didn´t defeat Hezbollah, they even didn´t disarm Hamás. They struck Yemen many times and reached nothing. And simply gave up in changing the Regime in Irán. The nuclear program is ongoing (evidence of alternative sites in Isfahan and even mining uranium). The missile program remain at least at 70%, and worse all Persian Gulf remains closed and inflation it is directly attributable to their strategies.

But socially it is the most hated country of the world. They even cannot sit in a caffee in Vietnam and are hated around all the world.

So, no. You´re wrong the only pathetic strategy that have failed miserably it is just Irael.

Whoever you ask said the same, Irán just need to sit and wait to complete the victory.

which is kind of ironic because you actually support state brutality against protestors. So, it is very telling about your mindset.

Again not true, everyone of us got sad because the protestors killings. And if we hailed the Islamic Republic was just when they confronted unequivocally armed and foreign assisted people assaulting police stations and even mosques. I married a persian lady and have this kind of discussions regularly. They finally admited that legitimate protests were instrumentalized from abroad.

 

[mangekyo]

We attacked Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is not less influential than Egypt in the Muslim world. They are the "Guardians of Holy Sites".

Not saying that we should attack Egypt though. Not unless their registered assets or territory is used against us in a war.

I believe Saudi is different. Don’t get me wrong, the Egyptian government is just as, if not more evil than Saudi. But Saudis reputation in the Muslim world for supporting the Zionist agenda is much worse than Egypt’s. The Egyptians seem to get away with what they’re doing for reasons unknown to me.

Most Muslims know about the evils of Saudi Arabia. But how many know of the Egyptians role in Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Remember when Omid Djalili (Bahai British-Iranian comedian) said that a video from Minab, Iran (where the terrorist US bombed a school and slaughtered more than 150 Iranian school girls) was AI generated because the kids obviously looked Pakistani, not Iranian:

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These people have internalised a strange mixture of self-hatred and propagandised Western supremacy and the result is a cult-like group of uber fascists who have no connection to Iran and would rather wave Israeli/American flags.

This f---er was "advocating" for the bombing of Iran on many TV channels in the UK as he wanted "regime change".

 

[Optical216]

I am assuming at this point, that Iran has not "responded" to the USA. No news of it anywhere.

Will Iran keep the UISA "hanging" until the end of Trumps trip to China ?

Iran could do the funniest thing ever and attack a us warship while trump is talking to xi jinping live

 

[KingQamaR]

That 2 Billion/day is helping the market manipulators make $100s of Billions. They would like to keep doing that. Trump finally became a billionaire, something which he has always wanted to be all is life.

The only thing that keeps the USA military away from waging open war against a country is the threat a few nuclear strikes in retaliation.

If Iran does not have any nukes, then none of this makes sense.

One US Navy Ohio class submarine can completely destroy Iran. There is nothing else that the US Navy needs to do.

So none of this is making sense. This war is looking more and more like a 9/11 styled phenomemon.

The lack of checks and balances on such a madman and his administration is astounding. It should be easier to get rid of such a madman and his incompetent cabinet.

 

[PakAl]

I believe Saudi is different. Don’t get me wrong, the Egyptian government is just as, if not more evil than Saudi. But Saudis reputation in the Muslim world for supporting the Zionist agenda is much worse than Egypt’s. The Egyptians seem to get away with what they’re doing for reasons unknown to me.

Most Muslims know about the evils of Saudi Arabia. But how many know of the Egyptians role in Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?

Saudis are way more powerful and influential than Egypt, they spent 100 billion+ of petrodollars to spread wahhabism around the world, they fund media, schools, maddrassas, masjids, tv channels, social media, Quran competitions, literature etc, just about everything to spread their sectarian ideology, these zombie followers then follow Saudi directions and are loyal towards them, they influence muslims, politicians and promote pro Saudi directive. For example currently they quote Islamic literature and claim Usa/Israel v Iran is 2 evils killing each other and sometimes Allah almighty makes 2 evil fight each other, in order to destroy them (in another words follow Zionist agenda), regarding Palestinians their muftis say Palestinians should leave Gaza for their own safety (indirectly supporting the zionist agenda), they claim Palestinians are suffering because they commit shirk (typical khwarij ideology).

Saudis also maintain close strategic relationship with the Usa/EU, and secretly with Israel, they invest 100s of billions in to the western world, maintain close partnerships. Do people believe Saudis will sacrifice this for Palestinians or Iran? Muslims are unfortunately (I'll use a decent word) naive people. But these are the signs of the end of times, deception, confusion, propaganda leads a person on the wrong path, people follow foolish people who beautify their speech but its all a trick, they select these people to come on tv youtube to brainwash people.

Egypt on the other hand fought 3x wars with Israel but realised they cannot win, Usa backs Israel, they then submitted to their dominance, no doubt Egypt opposes Islamist MB groups, its because of internal Egypt situation, whilst they allow wahabism due to Saudi relations. So Egypt is a smaller power compared to the Saudis, the same way Emirates are smaller power compared to Saudis. Saudi is number one Usa/Zionist ally.

 

[Goenitz]

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Is there a way to trigger enemy air defence like a missile deploying speedy decoys? Will that be viable?

 

[HAIDER]

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Saudis are fighting with Emiratis online lol

Ist world war British adventure. But, too late for Saudi, reunion is not possible.

 

[SD 10]

I believe Saudi is different. Don’t get me wrong, the Egyptian government is just as, if not more evil than Saudi. But Saudis reputation in the Muslim world for supporting the Zionist agenda is much worse than Egypt’s. The Egyptians seem to get away with what they’re doing for reasons unknown to me.

Most Muslims know about the evils of Saudi Arabia. But how many know of the Egyptians role in Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?

Naah nobody takes egypt serious. They were conquered by israelis and americans in late 70s, one of the first muslim countries to fell to the dark side!
They are a big joke !

 

[mangekyo]

Saudis are way more powerful and influential than Egypt, they spent 100 billion+ of petrodollars to spread wahhabism around the world, they fund media, schools, maddrassas, masjids, tv channels, social media, Quran competitions, literature etc, just about everything to spread their sectarian ideology, these zombie followers then follow Saudi directions and are loyal towards them, they influence muslims, politicians and promote pro Saudi directive. For example currently they quote Islamic literature and claim Usa/Israel v Iran is 2 evils killing each other and sometimes Allah almighty makes 2 evil fight each other, in order to destroy them (in another words follow Zionist agenda), regarding Palestinians their muftis say Palestinians should leave Gaza for their own safety (indirectly supporting the zionist agenda), they claim Palestinians are suffering because they commit shirk (typical khwarij ideology).

Saudis also maintain close strategic relationship with the Usa/EU, and secretly with Israel, they invest 100s of billions in to the western world, maintain close partnerships. Do people believe Saudis will sacrifice this for Palestinians or Iran? Muslims are unfortunately (I'll use a decent word) naive people. But these are the signs of the end of times, deception, confusion, propaganda leads a person on the wrong path, people follow foolish people who beautify their speech but its all a trick, they select these people to come on tv youtube to brainwash people.

Egypt on the other hand fought 3x wars with Israel but realised they cannot win, Usa backs Israel, they then submitted to their dominance, no doubt Egypt opposes Islamist MB groups, its because of internal Egypt situation, whilst they allow wahabism due to Saudi relations. So Egypt is a smaller power compared to the Saudis, the same way Emirates are smaller power compared to Saudis. Saudi is number one Usa/Zionist ally.

I agree with you. And for the reasons you mentioned, the Saudis generally have a terrible reputation in the Muslim world. The Egyptians on the other hand do not. Most Muslims are unaware of Egypts role. Iran attacking Egypt can’t be compared to Iran attacking Saudi. Except for a select few -which we know who they are and what their agenda is, most Muslims are happy with what Iran is doing to Saudi and the GCC.

 

[ShapurII]

Israel strategy was to "change the face of entire Middle East", do you remember?.

Militarily they didn´t defeat Hezbollah, they even didn´t disarm Hamás. They struck Yemen many times and reached nothing. And simply gave up in changing the Regime in Irán. The nuclear program is ongoing (evidence of alternative sites in Isfahan and even mining uranium). The missile program remain at least at 70%, and worse all Persian Gulf remains closed and inflation it is directly attributable to their strategies.

But socially it is the most hated country of the world. They even cannot sit in a caffee in Vietnam and are hated around all the world.

So, no. You´re wrong the only pathetic strategy that have failed miserably it is just Irael.

Whoever you ask said the same, Irán just need to sit and wait to complete the victory.

All of the people that were the faces of the so-called Axis of Resistance are dead. How's that not changing the face of the Middle East? lol The only remaining piece of the puzzle is Iran which is under a complete blockade now and is waiting for to be attacked again, while Iranian people are suffering under severe economic sanctions and Iran's economy is on the verge of collapse.

Militarily, not only they defeated Hezbollah and invaded southern Lebanon, but they have imposed another fake ceasefire on Lebanon which means that they get to attack Hezbollah at will while Hezbollah has to abide by the ceasefire until Iran is attacked again. They killed over 300 people after the ceasefire, some kind of ceasefire, no? As for the Houthis of Yemen, they said they would support Iran but later said they would abide by the terms of their ceasefire with the US. Not that the Houthis of Yemen were able to damage anything of value in Israel anyway, but it shows how unwilling they are to behave as they did before.

Your analysis of the situation gets dangerously wrong when you say they have given up on the idea of regime change in Iran. They are literally publicly and officially talking about sending Iran to the stone age and arming the Iranians to topple the regime, and you say they have given up on the idea! They have hit police stations, Basij stations, border patrol, ammo depots of Iran's ground forces that are close to the capital or the borders and they are talking about sending weapons to the protestors and your analysis of all that is they have given up? lol

The missile program is not an existential threat to Israel. It's not even a serious threat anymore, as they have witnessed and analyzed its limitations. It matters only because it's Iran's ONLY tool of fighting back, not because it is an existential threat. Iran's nuclear program was an existential threat to Israel and it has been neutralized, whether you like it or not. Iran has fired over a thousand missiles at Israel and other than a couple of good hits on the Bazan refinery and a few other places, none of them were of any sort of importance or significant damage. Iran with its missiles has killed fewer Israelis than October 7th. Iran can fire new barrages of missiles again. Israel will intercept most of them and once they're about to run out of interceptors, Iran will be forced to accept a new ceasefire. Just like the June war, just like the Ramadhan war.

Again not true, everyone of us got sad because the protestors killings. And if we hailed the Islamic Republic was just when they confronted unequivocally armed and foreign assisted people assaulting police stations and even mosques. I married a persian lady and have this kind of discussions regularly. They finally admited that legitimate protests were instrumentalized from abroad.

"Instrumentalized" or not, state brutality is state brutality. 3,200 people killed in just 2 days, per their own stats, and you supported that.

 

[Flotilla]

I believe Saudi is different. Don’t get me wrong, the Egyptian government is just as, if not more evil than Saudi. But Saudis reputation in the Muslim world for supporting the Zionist agenda is much worse than Egypt’s. The Egyptians seem to get away with what they’re doing for reasons unknown to me.

Most Muslims know about the evils of Saudi Arabia. But how many know of the Egyptians role in Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?

Any miscalculation from Sisi could cause civil unrest in their country. I hope Egypt Government understand this and don't get involved in offensive operations.