Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Hassan Al-Somal
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Hassan Al-Somal
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PK781
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israel wants to torch the entire world so it can establish itself for the fake messiah.
they don't give a damn about anything......even if they sacrifice usa/uk/west in the process. But its not easy task if they have to do it by themselves.
the zionists are cowards too
Thanks !! I wonder what they seeks there......
A....hole. I've got nothing else to say
hasn2009
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- Yes US is gigantic, but it wasn't able to protect it's bases or allies in the M.E from a sanction stricken country of 50 years.
- US was not able to open Hormuz, Iran badly exposed US's posture in M.E, we can only imagine what China will do.
- Have you seen the numbers on depleting weapon stocks? Have you seen the destruction of THAAD and other radars in M.E?
- And, how many losses did US incur in Iraq/Afghanistan/Vietnam wars? And what goals did they achieve? How was tiny Yemen able to humiliate US+Israel+Gulf?
- Can US economy of $40trillion debt afford another Afghanistan-style forever war on Iran?
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Meengla
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When Max says it then we better pay attention. Yes, very fishy that 'rescue' was. And as I said in last 1-2 days, the Isfahan 'rescue' mission led to the loss many American jets probably due to Iranian air defense systems and probably led to the ceasefire in the second week of April.
Pakistan's retired Air Commodore Khalid Chisti keeps saying he has seen the 'data' from classified sources and he thinks Iranians have at least some deterrent air defense systems which may even hit an F-35. Mr. Chisti is working on a 'paper' and by now may have published that but I am not sure.
Meengla
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It seems like Iranians want to fight like Hezbollah, like the Vietnamese, like the Afghan Taliban and Iranians don't want to be subdued like Venezuela or Iraq. I don't know where to put Syria and Libya in that because those two countries were just too fractionalized to be called a 'nation'.
I absolutely don't see any capitulation by Iran short of multiple nukes dropped on Iran or a massive land invasion. Both those options are almost impossible. Hence Iran will win by surviving, however damaged it would be.
Meengla
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Very good post!
America has lost its ability to launch much of land based attacks on Iran. Americans can't even gather 100,000 soldiers for a land invasion; there would be a revolt if such an attempt is made. The so-called Kurds force have backed out of invading Iran. For the Iraq War (2003) and the Afghan War (2001-2021), there was considerable support available for the American attack and in case of Iraq, land access to attack. In case of Afghanistan, there was not only the American air campaign but also the readily available fighters from the Northern Alliance. None of those factors apply now with the bases destroyed. An only sea-based attack from standoffish projectiles where even the air supremacy is of questionable value is just not going to cut it, on top of this war very unpopular in America.
Raider 21
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My apologies, I haven't been moderating this thread for 3 weeks.
But yes mentioning things like "Bomb UAE to oblivion" is not acceptable. Make it specific....it would be very wrong to write "Bomb Iran to oblivion" as well. Got a lot of Arab friends there (grew up in that region) and most of my Pakistani relatives live there as well.
Cheers
why sorry ? It's not you ..
and I will say it again , bomb UAE to oblivion , they are the reason behind every chaos in Egypt , libya , Sudan and other countries.
bomb them to oblivion.
Fatman17
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He's a political scientist at Chicago University. Well respected
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