PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[Taimoor]

read the paragraph that you sent again

Which part of this you did not understand?

However, it is reported that the AIM-260 will not be retrofitted to older aircraft models such as the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon.

 

[Ak01]

Which part of this you did not understand?

However, it is reported that the AIM-260 will not be retrofitted to older aircraft models such as the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon.

and the eagle 2? or the viper?

 

[ThoroughPro]

if 8-0 whats the 8th kill i mean which jet is it?

Israeli made heron drone

 

[Taimoor]

and the eagle 2? or the viper?

I have already given you plenty of info in public domain about F16s NOT be armed with 260s. And if you read further, it lays out the integration path, starting from f22 to f35, then to f18 (becuase of carrier based ops), and it stops there, there is no mention of futher integration to other platforms like f16s.

Have you found anything in public domain to the contrary or its all hopium? With all this mind, let your imagination run wild with PAF ever getting 260s (which btw were envisaged as a response to PL15).

 

[ThoroughPro]

No mention of sanctions prone F-16s in the air force having any future. Sad news.

Actually its a great news, the day i have been living to see for a very long time when we can be free of our dependence on US made weapons for our defence.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Actually its a great news, the day i have been living to see for a very long time when we can be free of our dependence on US made weapons for our defence.

However, will the West set you free? F-16s, IMF loans etc. are their deterrence against Pakistan.....

 

[HH-9A]

Heard an interview with CAC/ institute 611 engineers conducted in Chinese. But I can’t recall where I heard. Basically, CAC/ institute 611 already further upgraded J10C avionics and ASEA radar, so probably the new batch J10CP to be delivered will feature these improvements.

 

[Fatman17]

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[Corax]

Seems like the PL17 could be headed to the PAF in the next batch of J10s?

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/world-longest-range-a2a-china-j10c

 

[Ibbi32]

I dont think pl-17 is coming. Think about it, pl-15 was their new standard missile to beat aim-120D and paf only got it after committing to j-10C which they were evidently hesitant about. Pl-17 by comparison is their premier long range stick much newer than pl-15 and only really used by j-16s, the only missile in the world thats comparable is aim-174 and that only entered service last year. PAF has no need for these stupidly long range and coversely stupidly expensive sticks when we already hold decisive advantage and even indias best option of r-37M cant fully beat

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I dont think pl-17 is coming. Think about it, pl-15 was their new standard missile to beat aim-120D and paf only got it after committing to j-10C which they were evidently hesitant about. Pl-17 by comparison is their premier long range stick much newer than pl-15 and only really used by j-16s, the only missile in the world thats comparable is aim-174 and that only entered service last year. PAF has no need for these stupidly long range and coversely stupidly expensive sticks when we already hold decisive advantage and even indias best option of r-37M cant fully beat

But, the Chinese engineers need to prove to their worth to their party bosses! What a better way than to see its effects in a dog-eats-dog real-life battle conditions in real-time.....

A missile functioning in a real war is better than a thousand at the inventory.....

 

[ThoroughPro]

I dont think pl-17 is coming. Think about it, pl-15 was their new standard missile to beat aim-120D and paf only got it after committing to j-10C which they were evidently hesitant about. Pl-17 by comparison is their premier long range stick much newer than pl-15 and only really used by j-16s, the only missile in the world thats comparable is aim-174 and that only entered service last year. PAF has no need for these stupidly long range and coversely stupidly expensive sticks when we already hold decisive advantage and even indias best option of r-37M cant fully beat

Give me one good reason, why would they NOT want to test their premier weapon system in a real conflict?

 

[HH-9A]

Certainly China doesn’t want Pakistan to be in a real war in the first instance.

 

[ThoroughPro]

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While many Pakistani members keep asking why are we not inducting more J10's or when will they come?

The short answer is PAF collected a lot of useful info during the 4 day war.

New batch of J10's are going to way more advanced then the previous batch, thanks to the info colleccted and lessons learned.

 

[Corax]

I dont think pl-17 is coming. Think about it, pl-15 was their new standard missile to beat aim-120D and paf only got it after committing to j-10C which they were evidently hesitant about. Pl-17 by comparison is their premier long range stick much newer than pl-15 and only really used by j-16s, the only missile in the world thats comparable is aim-174 and that only entered service last year. PAF has no need for these stupidly long range and coversely stupidly expensive sticks when we already hold decisive advantage and even indias best option of r-37M cant fully beat

Some great thinking going on there. We also thought we would only get the export version of the PL15. We'll soon find out.