Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[VectorZero]

This is what happens when every decision has to be routed through the same military dictator.

Aur karo strategic restraint.

no this is what happens when you let other countries dictate yours.

 

[muz]

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[Irfan Baloch]

Negotiations and deals are waste of time and loss of lives of innocent Pakistani civilians.

No responsible state will ever sit down and talk to an illiterate criminal terrorist gang after two decades of killing thousands of civilians.

Follow qisas now. They kill innocent people, you kill their families.

since we as a nation are kept so confused by our poltical parties and the public opinion makers that it continues to consider TTP and BLA as their angry brothers and their actions as a justification for allegations on the "Punjabi army".

a common narrative that has been successfully sold by a party to win back to back elections in KP is that "Punjabi army" is killing Pashtons for American dollars and serving Americans.. this manjan is still being sold when Americans have already left Afghanistan and their cousins are ruling Afghanistan.

any change in stance by questioning the actions of their angry brothers might affect their vote bank so after every terror attack, this political party justifies these attacks for the presence of Punjabi army in KP and its checkposts and operations.
the KP goverment is more interested in investigating and stopping Punjabi army from IBO's and drones against its votebank rather than stopping its voters from attacking its own police stations.

yes Punjabi army.. this is the narrative in KP.. and its being fanned by this party. just letting the "Punjabi" followers of this party know the ethnic hatred which is justified out of hatred for Pak Army.. try visiting the unfiltered forums and whatsapp groups for yourselves.

no, I am not absolving GHQ... I support the view that...
General Faiz and his supporerts should be publically executed for his role in rehablitating these supporters and voters back into Pakistan from Afghanistan.

added: feel free to report / delete this post. but know my stance.

 

[muz]

At this point if the Failed Marshal has any more honour and dignity left he should send ground troops directly to afghanistan we lose people either way might as well lose them in direct fights against these cavemen

 

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[hasssanali8998]

guys can we pls not bring politics in this again

 

[Xestan]

Irfan instead of leaving laughing emojis on my post like the RW jeets do counter it with some of your own points or might as well leave this thread

This guy has been trying to derail the thread for several pages now. And I have silently reported the posts. But I guess Mods would like this thread to become a political dump as well.

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[I*R*A]

yes Punjabi army.. this is the narrative in KP

You are already know this, but to remind Pakistan state if it needs a counter narrative to Punjabi Army propaganda.

Two out of three military academies in Pakistan are in KPK.

There is this FF (Frontier Force) regiment whose

Composition: Historically, it recruited heavily from Pashtun tribes of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa. As of 2000, recruitment was structured to include 35% Punjabis, 45% Pashtuns, 10% Sindhis, and 5% Balochis to diversify the unit.

Any idiot who tries to spread Punjabi Army propaganda, his chootars should get laal by hard chitrol.

added: feel free to report / delete this post. but know my stance.

I am at loss here. Was your reply intended to my post?

 

[Fatman17]

This guy has been trying to derail the thread for several pages now. And I have silently reported the posts. But I guess Mods would like this thread to become a political dump as well.

@RescueRanger @Fatman17 @Raider 21 @side-winder

Taking action as required

 

[Xestan]

Thank you, @Fatman17

Coming back to the topic. Someone on this forum might have some information about our strategy here.

Because I refuse to believe there's no plan. Op Ghazab-lil-Haq had a plan, PAF was bombing military facilities as if all targets were already properly listed somewhere and they were following up on it night after night. Until we hit Camp Phoenix and we got cold feet afterwards.

Yes, there was collateral damage and a lot of bad PR. The whole world ganged up against you, but should that stop you from achieving your objectives of war?

Dozens of Pakistanis have died since March 17th. And no substantial retaliation has been seen by our military. Some holes in so-called Kunar University and Al Jazeera running whining pieces on it again gave us cold feet, I guess? Again, question is, what is the plan?

 

[Fatman17]

Thank you, @Fatman17

Coming back to the topic. Someone on this forum might have some information about our strategy here.

Because I refuse to believe there's no plan. Op Ghazab-lil-Haq had a plan, PAF was bombing military facilities as if all targets were already properly listed somewhere and they were following up on it night after night. Until we hit Camp Phoenix and we got cold feet afterwards.

Yes, there was collateral damage and a lot of bad PR. The whole world ganged up against you, but should that stop you from achieving your objectives of war?

Dozens of Pakistanis have died since March 17th. And no substantial retaliation has been seen by our military. Some holes in so-called Kunar University and Al Jazeera running whining pieces on it again gave us cold feet, I guess? Again, question is, what is the plan?

The stop - go - stop strategy is not working. Got to put the metal to the pedal. Problem is that China is now involved and wants a peaceful settlement to save its investments in Afghanistan. Hst the Taliban claim that the TTP is not in their control. Now Hst we need to decide once and for all - what is in Our interest and this message needs to be put forward to the Taliban and China and anyone else.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Thank you, @Fatman17

Coming back to the topic. Someone on this forum might have some information about our strategy here.

Because I refuse to believe there's no plan. Op Ghazab-lil-Haq had a plan, PAF was bombing military facilities as if all targets were already properly listed somewhere and they were following up on it night after night. Until we hit Camp Phoenix and we got cold feet afterwards.

Yes, there was collateral damage and a lot of bad PR. The whole world ganged up against you, but should that stop you from achieving your objectives of war?

Dozens of Pakistanis have died since March 17th. And no substantial retaliation has been seen by our military. Some holes in so-called Kunar University and Al Jazeera running whining pieces on it again gave us cold feet, I guess? Again, question is, what is the plan?

Lets get some perspective here.

OP GLH intention was to target former NATO bases, drone assembly facilities and taliban factions in Kandahar responsible for facilitating or taking part in cross border infiltrations.

Now when it comes to locations such as Lakki Marwat, I keep hearing this same damn name for years now and other areas of KP/FATA, the responsbility lies with the locals to deny space to infiltrators.

If the locals are unable to police themselves then declare martial law in KP/FATA and lets bring in the infantry and tanks. That would be the actual solution.

All I care about is Pakistan dropping out of the top 10 terrorism index as an immediate aim. I don't really care what tribals do to each other in the mountains.

 

[313Ghazi]

guys can we pls not bring politics in this again

Who's to blame? The soldiers/police officers? Their commanders? Is it a continous stream of operational failures? I don't think so.

I mean at some point we have to say "why are we negociating with terrorists for the hundredth time?!" That was a political decision as far as i understand. I can't remember which "friend" was facilitating them or encouraging them, but said friend didn't just lose 30 people.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Who's to blame? The soldiers/police officers? Their commanders? Is it a continous stream of operational failures? I don't think so.

I mean at some point we have to say "why are we negociating with terrorists for the hundredth time?!" That was a political decision as far as i understand. I can't remember which "friend" was facilitating them or encouraging them, but said friend didn't just lose 30 people.

Not talking about this man

Taking about pti and pmlun arguments for the thousandths time , like they aren’t the different sides of the same coin

But yes all the blame goes to army

 

[Toxic]

guys can we pls not bring politics in this again

This is political issue how can you not make it political?