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jf 17 is really small!

 

[TallGuy]

Yes, a J-10C, a J-20 and a JF-17 … or do you try to Tell us this is a J-35A like some idiots on X?

Sir, Can you train combat ready pilots on prototypes?

 

[Deino]

Sir, Can you train combat ready pilots on prototypes?

Well, actually I don‘t know what you want to say - what has any potential Training of Pilots to to with the line up of CAC Fighters including the J-20 and UAVs ??? - especially why posting this image anyway in the J-35A thread!

In that Care I can also post an Apple! It is also irrelevant.

 

[TallGuy]

Well, actually I don‘t know what you want to say - what has any potential Training of Pilots to to with the line up of CAC Fighters including the J-20 and UAVs ??? - especially why posting this image anyway in the J-35A thread!

In that Care I can also post an Apple! It is also irrelevant.

Sir, i was asking in context of training of pilots on 5th Gen aircraft (as speculated) what i did not understand that how can a combat ready pilot be trained on prototype aircraft. so logical assumption would be either they are been trained on some other platform with duel seaters. in pakistan case J-10s - that would be the most logical explaination.

 

[Deino]

Sir, i was asking in context of training of pilots on 5th Gen aircraft (as speculated) what i did not understand that how can a combat ready pilot be trained on prototype aircraft. so logical assumption would be either they are been trained on some other platform with duel seaters. in pakistan case J-10s - that would be the most logical explaination.

Pardon, seems I misunderstood your post!

In fact - and that‘s IMO one main argument against an early delivery to an export customer - is that indeed combat-tardy pilots could switch to the J-35A in a similar way like other pilots switch to the F-35. But surely NOT on prototypes. The point however is, the PLAAF itself has per my understanding only a very limited number of J-35As in service, so that none of then could be spared to train foreign pilots at the moment.

I know, there are claims, like @maverick mentioned above, that there are already 40 J-35 built, but these are per my understanding both variants and most of them are naval J-35. As such I expect the PLAAF to build at first a unit to train their own pilots and crews and later another one dedicated to train export customer and their pilots. And onyl then deliveries will occur …

Even more so there is NO HURRY at all given that the next Rafales will only come in 2030 at an earliest.

 

[SABRE]

Sir, Can you train combat ready pilots on prototypes?

Generally speaking, test pilots fly prototypes. Evaluating pilots may also get to fly these, depending on the procurement/acquisition situation and the progression of the prototype they are to fly. Operations pilots are trained on the final product since that is what is going to be employed in combat. However, there is nothing to say that these pilots cannot receive early training on a prototype that is close to being a complete product.

 

[Michael]

......but these are per my understanding both variants and most of them are naval J-35. As such I expect the PLAAF to build at first a unit to train their own pilots and crews and later another one dedicated to train export customer and their pilots. And onyl then deliveries will occur …

For a new fighter aircraft, the standard process for entering service typically proceeds as follows:
1. The PLAAF Test Pilot Group: This unit participates throughout the entire research, development, and flight-testing phases of the aircraft. Concurrently, it serves as the primary entity responsible for drafting the aircraft's operational and training manuals. The unit's main focus is on evaluating the individual performance capabilities of the aircraft platform itself.
2. Subsequently, the PLAAF Flight Test and Training Base takes over: This facility conducts tactical trials and training for the aircraft, including exercises involving collaborative combat operations with multiple aircraft types. Simultaneously, they further refine the operational and training manuals, bringing them to their final, definitive version.

If an export variant of the fighter exists, the training of foreign air force pilots must commence only after the second step of this process has been completed. Based on the final version of the PLAAF's own operational and training manuals, a revised version tailored for the export model is produced; only then can the actual training and instruction of foreign air force pilots begin.
Unless the fighter jet involves joint development or has a confirmed technology export, foreign pilots will not be involved before the end of step 2.

To the best of my knowledge, the J-35 series fighter differs from other Chinese combat aircraft in one key respect: the majority of its flight-testing work is conducted jointly by a combined test pilot team comprising pilots from both the PLAAF and the PLA Naval Air Force.

 

[NA71]

Aik random photo .....yeh banda pagal ho gaya ....har haftey aik photo post karon ga ....ab

 

[mythbuster]

Sir, i was asking in context of training of pilots on 5th Gen aircraft (as speculated) what i did not understand that how can a combat ready pilot be trained on prototype aircraft. so logical assumption would be either they are been trained on some other platform with duel seaters. in pakistan case J-10s - that would be the most logical explaination.

There's a thing called simulator , that's the first step for pilots conversion.

 

[Shui]

Yes, a J-10C, a J-20 and a JF-17 … or do you try to Tell us this is a J-35A like some idiots on X?

That is a J-20A.

 

[Shui]

 

[东风夜放花千树]

There's a thing called simulator , that's the first step for pilots conversion.

The first step should be theoretical training. Only after passing the theoretical training can one proceed to simulated flight. This is the process for the Pakistan Air Force to receive J-10C training in China.

These reports come from the Pakistan Air Force magazine 'Second to none'.

 

[mythbuster]

The first step should be theoretical training. Only after passing the theoretical training can one proceed to simulated flight. This is the process for the Pakistan Air Force to receive J-10C training in China.

These reports come from the Pakistan Air Force magazine 'Second to none'.

Well , that's taken for granted...

 

[maverick]

jf 17 is really small!

Yes J17 is considered light weight, J35 and J10C medium weight aircrafts.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

some of us share dates based on our sources, they can be right or wrong.
And J35 is operational with more than 40 produced so far.

What Source? YouTube/X/Instagram source? give me your source? that I'm saying from day one from you lol

And 40 is not he requirement of PLAN or PLAAF and also give me the source also and don't blabber/bark baseless again