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Deino said:
Even more so there is NO HURRY at all given that the next Rafales will only come in 2030 at an earliest.
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The focus is less on the Rafale's - they are maxxed out with the Meteor and now considered a tackled(if absolutely respectable) threat.

The peripheral vision is seeing a twin Su-57 being prepped which is where the only possible 5th gen threat to Pakistan will emerge from India.
 
东风夜放花千树 said:
The first step should be theoretical training. Only after passing the theoretical training can one proceed to simulated flight. This is the process for the Pakistan Air Force to receive J-10C training in China.

These reports come from the Pakistan Air Force magazine 'Second to none'.
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Oscar said:
The focus is less on the Rafale's - they are maxxed out with the Meteor and now considered a tackled(if absolutely respectable) threat.

The peripheral vision is seeing a twin Su-57 being prepped which is where the only possible 5th gen threat to Pakistan will emerge from India.
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Su 57 makes it a lot easier for PAF to manage.

It will be the Su30 MKI (raptor of east, mini AWACS) saga again. India will tie their funds and manpower into an unproven and frankly, really not a LO aircraft. Maintenance and operations nightmare considering Russian supply chain and support and above all, all hosh posh stiched together when it comes to network centric operations. French Rafales and SU57.

Good luck getting the two to give you enough flexibility where one aircraft knows what the other is doing.

But of course, in its desperation to prove SU57 is the best 5th Gen, india will go for it because in reality they have no other choice.

PAF can simple procure the next gen package KJ500 + J35 and have their JF17 and J-10CEs plug into as well.
 
rafale said:
Su 57 makes it a lot easier for PAF to manage.

It will be the Su30 MKI (raptor of east, mini AWACS) saga again. India will tie their funds and manpower into an unproven and frankly, really not a LO aircraft. Maintenance and operations nightmare considering Russian supply chain and support and above all, all hosh posh stiched together when it comes to network centric operations. French Rafales and SU57.

Good luck getting the two to give you enough flexibility where one aircraft knows what the other is doing.

But of course, in its desperation to prove SU57 is the best 5th Gen, india will go for it because in reality they have no other choice.

PAF can simple procure the next gen package KJ500 + J35 and have their JF17 and J-10CEs plug into as well.
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Su-57 in IAF would honestly be a great thing for Pakistan provided China leaks Su-57 intel to Pakistan. There is already an engineer on the Su-57's Himalaya integrated avionics suite who has claimed that most components and a fair bit of its design is Chinese in origin. We don't know how true this is at all but Russia's radar tech has not moved much since early 2000s era when Russia's economy faltered and the experimental Zhuks and Bars they put on demonstrators of modernised Fulcrums and Flankers are more or less one offs and half builds with plenty of "WIP" and "would like to have" and "will be xyz" doing lots of heavy lifting when looking for investments to complete developments. Eventually RuAF got some PESAs onboard their newer Flankers and the Fulcrum just didn't go beyond the 1990s Mig-29M even though lots of UAC material and Mig-35 demonstrators produced, no customers came when India selected Rafale as eventual winner of the long drawn out MRCA competition.

One suspected reason why India pulled from FGFA was because they understood how much Chinese involvement behind the scenes in the Su-57 program there may be. It is quite a decent fighter and I think should be respected but India may have had concerns about this? Honestly the RCS reason cited online in the past seems off to me because there isn't anything else available on the market that has Su-57 level RCS reduction. I don't think China may even leak any critical intel to Pakistan even if China is heavily involved with some parts of Su-57 post Ukraine war where Su-57 finally actually hit the RuAF in more substantial numbers. Post western embargoes, Russian MIC did a lot of transitioning with critical components and tools.

It would be great for Pakistan to get some KJ-500, supplementary numbers of J-10CE, PL-16E and PL-17E, J-35E and GJ-11. This would be a great counter to any moves IAF can make for a while. The cheapest and most effective way Pakistan can guard against Indian aggression would be through mass produced drones with enough range to hit 200km behind border.
 
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