PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[东风夜放花千树]

What is the source of this garbage?

I hate that you call the weapons that defend China and Pakistan 'garbage.' The J-10C is a comrade fighting alongside us, a brave warrior safeguarding national security and resisting foreign invaders.

You really lack manners. Have you eaten too many donuts in the United States?

When a person is garbage, everything they see is garbage.

 

[RealNapster]

I hate that you call the weapons that defend China and Pakistan 'garbage.' The J-10C is a comrade fighting alongside us, a brave warrior safeguarding national security and resisting foreign invaders.

I think what he meant was that your statement is garbage i.e; flase statement with no source to back it up.

You can be right, or he can be right... regarding the J10C performance. But no body called J10C garbage.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

I think what he meant was that your statement is garbage i.e; flase statement with no source to back it up.

You can be right, or he can be right... regarding the J10C performance. But no body called J10C garbage.

You are a kind person, and you always look at problems with an optimistic attitude.

He can ask for sources, and I will provide him with evidence. As for whether he believes the information provided, that is his freedom of thought. It is not appropriate to use the word "garbage."

You can read the content he posted; several members have already tried to explain to him. His purpose is to vent emotions rather than to have a normal discussion.

 

[RealNapster]

You are a kind person, and you always look at problems with an optimistic attitude.

He can ask for sources, and I will provide him with evidence. As for whether he believes the information provided, that is his freedom of thought. It is not appropriate to use the word "garbage."

You can read the content he posted; several members have already tried to explain to him. His purpose is to vent emotions rather than to have a normal discussion.

Bro how he reacts or acts is something out of my control and not something i should be concerned about.

Just wanted to clarify his statement so that there is no bad feeling in that regard. If you think he is usually disrespectful or abusive, you can either put him into your ignore list or report to moderators.

 

[Ak01]

You are a kind person, and you always look at problems with an optimistic attitude.

He can ask for sources, and I will provide him with evidence. As for whether he believes the information provided, that is his freedom of thought. It is not appropriate to use the word "garbage."

You can read the content he posted; several members have already tried to explain to him. His purpose is to vent emotions rather than to have a normal discussion.

ok, how about you explain it to me then.

Please provide me the data/sources you refer to when asserting the claim that the J-10C uses GaN based AESA, while also being superior in range to other european fighters, and European fighters being unable to detect it?

i am very excited to hear about this

Thanks

 

[rafale]

ok, how about you explain it to me then.

Please provide me the data/sources you refer to when asserting the claim that the J-10C uses GaN based AESA, while also being superior in range to other european fighters, and European fighters being unable to detect it?

i am very excited to hear about this

Thanks

Bhai, we will never have a factual conclusive answer to these questions.......but we can only deduce from the already limited information we have on such systems and hence it will be up to the interpretation of individual member

On a side note, if PAF J-10CEs did mock combat against Qatari EFs, we need to know more on what ROEs were......was it one fighter vs other alone and relying only on its own systems? Or was it who got the firing solution first? (in which case, again a longer ranged radar would be of immense help) I am assuming Qatari pilots flying EF were well trained and intelligent.

So lets end this personal attacks and see if we can talk more factual or discuss what we have.

 

[Ak01]

So lets end this personal attacks and see if we can talk more factual or discuss what we have.

which is exactly why i challenged his claim, these nonsense type posts just ruin discussion.

 

[Corax]

ok, how about you explain it to me then.

Please provide me the data/sources you refer to when asserting the claim that the J-10C uses GaN based AESA, while also being superior in range to other european fighters, and European fighters being unable to detect it?

i am very excited to hear about this

Thanks

Well if we didn't use data link to guide the PL15s that hit IAF fighters, we would assume it was onboard guidance via the J10Cs radar? If that's the case then we have real world circumstances to suggest the radar and guidance would be able to defeat the Rafale at least. Of course we don't know the exact data or the other factors of the engagement, but if we're assuming standalone kills of the J10C/PL15 combo then that speaks for itself I guess.

 

[Jango007]

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Logical deduction from J-10CE vs overhyped Rafale (real combat results) and against EF in Qatar (simulated)

Rafale is more intended for strike and CAS role , it has minimal kinematic compare to typhoon in air superiority role but typhoon is a different story,, typhoon main mission is air superiority and typhoon's specifications is inspired by F-15, so I highly doubt that J-10C has kill 9-0 against one of the best jet in the world

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

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SCMP is one of the most crap/junk source on chinses military defense news lol

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Man! You have a strange habit of always opposing others views. I am defending the other party of abusing you (you are doing same) but I have noticed your stubborn behavior a lot many times.
And yes, European AESA technology is lagging a lot behind that of Chinese AESA technology, no matter who it invented this technology first.

Source? or just fan-boy enthusiasm ?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I hate that you call the weapons that defend China and Pakistan 'garbage.' The J-10C is a comrade fighting alongside us, a brave warrior safeguarding national security and resisting foreign invaders.

You really lack manners. Have you eaten too many donuts in the United States?

When a person is garbage, everything they see is garbage.

Rafale is more intended for strike and CAS role , it has minimal kinematic compare to typhoon in air superiority role but typhoon is a different story,, typhoon main mission is air superiority and typhoon's specifications is inspired by F-15, so I highly doubt that J-10C has kill 9-0 against one of the best jet in the world

 

[Jango007]

SCMP is one of the most crap/junk source on chinses military defense news lol

If you care to read or pay attention it’s actually quoting Chinese state broadcaster CCTV …..

 

[Jango007]

I'm living in reality you're living in your Utopia and Fairytales kid, Its doesn't matter whether I'm Pakistani or American I have logic and common sense but you don't have these qualities lol EF-2000's and J-10's specifications are almost same, So how can EF-2000's AESA hasn't enough range to detect J-10C and vice versa, it could be possible only for old EF-2000 tranche 1/2 but not in latest tranche 3 and tranche 4 lol

Bro you need to cut this crap...You are coming across as rude and obnoxious and ruining one of the threads I love to visit. Please put your ego in the nearest garbage bin and relax.