Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan achieved nothing against the Baloch separatist insurgency over decades.

This is what happens when you have weak cowards running policy and your national identity is built on meaningless Muslim brathars saar.

When are we going to admit that Pakistani Muslim nationalist ideology is weak and a failure? It fundamentally lacks the motivation to confront threats and is submissive!

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So the answer is Pakistani nationalism.

 

[Waz]

no they are positioning themselves as freedom fighters for west and not your usual islamic terrorist , having a women commnader achieves that . this is not for us but for west and diaspora baloch
the libs in the west will eat this up
i doubt she will even fight she is just a propaganda piece nothing more and a very good one

It's both, even the male units have literally young teens in them. The west couldn't give a $hit, they have their own major issues. Do remember the Kurdish groups did the same thing, how much has the West done for that cause? Nothing. They turned a blind eye to Turkish operations which have left them decimated. The US even dumped them after the fall of IS in Syria.

you dont need to be a superman to blow yourself up or trigger an ied

That's true, but you need some sort of competency. Combat is highly stressful and you can't take a few female students, housewives etc and suddenly turn them into a reasonable guerilla fighter.

pls dont take this lightly because they are women
this is serously growing out of hand
first advisor to emariti king talking about baloch freedom and now this

No one is taking it lightly, I am discussing the practical aspects which are zilch, and this will damage Baloch society further, leading to breakdowns in towns and villages.
The advisor to the Emiratis is a clown, like the kingdom as well, which finds itself sandwiched between two major regional powers who hate it.
However, the situation has always been urgent and strategy needs to be sound.

 

[Areesh]

TBH at this point I think how many you are going to kill . They are Yajooj Majooj. You kill one today , tomorrow hundered more will come. There has to be a bigger action against them in Afghanistan. And This Khawarij government needs to be eradicated completely.

I understand what you are saying and i agree that the final solution of this war is in Afghanistan

However for now killing these terrorists without any break is necessary too. This is a war and in a war you need to kill before your enemy kills you

Also this abdullah saeed was not just a random terrorist but also a scholar and ideologue kind of a person for ttp and all other terrorist groups so his death is necessary and crucial

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[Areesh]

I understand what you are saying and i agree that the final solution of this war is in Afghanistan

However for now killing these terrorists without any break is necessary too. This is a war and in a war you need to kill before your enemy kills you

Also this abdullah saeed was not just a random terrorist but also a scholar and ideologue kind of a person for ttp and all other terrorist groups so his death is necessary and crucial

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Just a day ago lindu jeets were busy spreading threat of this abdullah saeed against Pakistan military and police

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[delta2]

TBH at this point I think how many you are going to kill . They are Yajooj Majooj. You kill one today , tomorrow hundered more will come. There has to be a bigger action against them in Afghanistan. And This Khawarij government needs to be eradicated completely.

Pakistan isn't going after those funding this evil. Until then you're just fighting the pawns.

As they say in the USA, "Bring the pain."

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

I don't know why people are still beating around the bush.

We need major military operations in Balochistan, not IBOs, on the tier of Zarb-e-Azb against entire villages.

You guys need to research the Turkish strategy against the Kurdish rebellion, this is essentially a popular Baloch rebellion. Trying to cope and say they have no popular support or some bullshit about "rights" is not going to get you anywhere. They don't want development the primary goal is the desire for a Baloch ethnic land. It is an ethnic war.

Invade their hotspot zones, relocate villages.

If you don't have the testosterone required for this, then let them go instead of holding it in limbo at ur own expense!

 

[The Sundance Kid]

Leadership - in afghanistan
funding - extortion from afghan civillians
safe houses - in afghanistan
arms - leftover afghanistan war stocks
training - in afghanistan
the f*cking terrorists themselves - full on afghanis


It's not an insurgency anymore - its a full on interstate conflict.

 

[The Sundance Kid]

I've said this many times before, the vast majority of challenges in the western parts of the country is because for 4+ decades you've let in 5+ million afghanis into this country bringing their head up the ass ethnocentric ideology with them.

They have no concept of a pluralistic society. According to them if their own ethnic group isn't dominating/ruling over everyone else - they start burning down their own country. Take a look at afghanistan today.

 

[Distant_Observer]

I've said this many times before, the vast majority of challenges in the western parts of the country is because for 4+ decades you've let in 5+ million afghanis into this country bringing their head up the ass ethnocentric ideology with them.

They have no concept of a pluralistic society. According to them if their own ethnic group isn't dominating/ruling over everyone else - they start burning down their own country. Take a look at afghanistan today.

They don't have a clue who is living in Balochistan and KP. Since the 80s it's had an open border.

 

[Dalit]

why the fk would you do that

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Any clarification on this?

 

[muz]

Balochistan is complex. It is Pashtun nationalist vs Baloch nationalist battleground.

Pashtun nationalist parties like PKMAP blackmail the government to try and flood the province with Afghan settlers to shift demographics in their own favour and grant them citizenship so they can make Balochs a minority and claim the entire land.

Baloch nationalists oppose this and claim their own areas.

The establishment has little control here because you piss off too many people then you lose all allies, and entire province turns violent.

Northen Balochistan has always been majority Pashtun with a significant Hazara Minority Balochs are the outliers in that part of the province
Seperate it from Balochistan and part of the insurgency will be sort of solved

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Northen Balochistan has always been majority Pashtun with a significant Hazara Minority Balochs are the outliers in that part of the province
Seperate it from Balochistan and part of the insurgency will be sort of solved

Pashtun Nationalists want to alter the demography so they can take more land and the coastal zone.

Look at maps of Pashtunistan, they claim the entire thing and need more numbers to overwhelm the other side, this is why Afghans are naturalised to bolster them.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

You guys need to learn from Turkey and give up this submissive mentality of mushlim brothers sar, you are damn right becoming like saar jeets while nowadays Indians stopped doing it apart from with Israelis.

The solution to Pakistan's insurgency is simple!: Constant, extreme, sustained pressure on the following:

—on Afghanistan, shell the border, always strike back aggressively any time they **** around, make them scared of messing with you.

— On the supporters of BLA, literally invade and relocate villages and tribes that are known supporters of BLA and aid it. Burn it down systematically.

— On the tribal belt, zero tolerance for sedition, treason or blackmail threats against the state. Extreme deterrence via military force. Penalise disloyal tribes.

If you are too cowardly to use your military for strategic goals, then give up now. Being regionally dominant isn't for submissive cowards.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Pakistan is literally looney toons, someone opened the border and Afghans flooded in by the tens of thousands.

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[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan is literally looney toons, someone opened the border and Afghans flooded in by the tens of thousands.

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i am now convinced that no one gaurds our posts
5 to 10 people sneaking in understandble but this is just insane