Modi's migrant madness

[Dalit]

I hear that Thailand has recently changed its policy, and then there is significant and increasing migration in Ireland, Australia, Japan and now in Eastern Europe as well.

Indian workers and migrants are the elephant in the room. They literally come in their hundreds of thousands. It is like a non-stop factory.

 

[r3alist]

Not just taxes, ideas, hard working culture, strong familial ties and largely low crime, higher wealth and job creation. The list goes on.

These are not specific contributions, they are just passive existence.

Ideas... really? You could have no data for that.

It is benefiting the US obviously. Remittance is spending, it's your own money after you pay the taxes.

Remittance is a subtraction from USA and an addition to India, honestly this is just a new definition of chutzpah


Must be over 1 trillion back to India over the years, as well as opportunity cost for other Americans

And of course the other side of the balance sheet is never mentioned in terms of what the USA gives Indians, honestly I have not seen much gratitude towards America from Indians, I'm sure it exists

 

[rishi7887]

Even Canadian Indian are complaining about immigration from India Lol

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I'm a Canadian of Indian origin and I don't want low quality immigrants from India coming in. The government has finally woken up and is shutting the door for good. Diploma mills - which provided an easy path for unemployed low skilled Indians to enter Canada are getting closed, since the government won't issue visas to students of such colleges. Thousands of Canadian teachers have lost their jobs as a result, but this is just short term pain for long term good. LMIA related visas have been shut as well. These were literally being sold off by business owners and immigration lawyers. Trudeau had really screwed up and brought the worst immigrants from India into canada. They didn't even do criminal background checks while issuing student visas. The result was that organized gang members from Punjab, Haryana, UP and Delhi made it in. Car thefts, extortion, home invasions, shoplifting, petty crimes went up.

The earlier immigrants who came into Canada were mostly coming through the Federal Skilled Worker program which needed you to be on a NOC code that was considered to have a labor shortage and provided a path for STEM workers to immigrate legally and settle down. Most STEM workers who used this path would find a job relatively easily within a few months of arriving and would generally be financially better off than most Canadians.

 

[KingQamaR]

I'm a Canadian of Indian origin and I don't want low quality immigrants from India coming in. The government has finally woken up and is shutting the door for good. Diploma mills - which provided an easy path for unemployed low skilled Indians to enter Canada are getting closed, since the government won't issue visas to students of such colleges. Thousands of Canadian teachers have lost their jobs as a result, but this is just short term pain for long term good. LMIA related visas have been shut as well. These were literally being sold off by business owners and immigration lawyers. Trudeau had really screwed up and brought the worst immigrants from India into canada. They didn't even do criminal background checks while issuing student visas. The result was that organized gang members from Punjab, Haryana, UP and Delhi made it in. Car thefts, extortion, home invasions, shoplifting, petty crimes went up.

The earlier immigrants who came into Canada were mostly coming through the Federal Skilled Worker program which needed you to be on a NOC code that was considered to have a labor shortage and provided a path for STEM workers to immigrate legally and settle down. Most STEM workers who used this path would find a job relatively easily within a few months of arriving and would generally be financially better off than most Canadians.

Majority of Indians are also exploiting the U.K. Students visa tons of fraud to enter here in U.K too. They are basically looking for cracks in the system to get in to the U.K. it’s pretty bad over here to. . Unfortunately for legit students they are unable to get a student visa nowadays due to crack down by U.K. labour Government bc of these kinds of people. I don’t understand why ain’t they sent back when home office knows it’s been going on for decades. Sadly most of them end up working in the retail industry and are total idiots. I’ve been in a queue waiting to pay for my goods and their customer service is none existent and struggling to communicate or deal with customers. You can see the frustrations in the people’s faces at them.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

These are not specific contributions, they are just passive existence.

Ideas... really? You could have no data for that.

Listing it out is pointless. Take patent filing, unicorn startups founded etc...

Look at the number of research fellows, graduates etc... etc... that's a simpler way to quantify "contribution". You're free to do that and get back with your results.

Remittance is a subtraction from USA and an addition to India, honestly this is just a new definition of chutzpah


Must be over 1 trillion back to India over the years, as well as opportunity cost for other Americans

And of course the other side of the balance sheet is never mentioned in terms of what the USA gives Indians, honestly I have not seen much gratitude towards America from Indians, I'm sure it exists

Again it's their personal money isn't it? The US is all about freedom and wealth creation not socialism of controlling where people can spend their money.

The US also conducts business in India, they probably saved 1 trillion in a year from all the business so who exactly should be grateful?
It's not like the US did any of us a favour.

 

[r3alist]

Listing it out is pointless. Take patent filing, unicorn startups founded etc...

Look at the number of research fellows, graduates etc... etc... that's a simpler way to quantify "contribution". You're free to do that and get back with your results.

We are talking about h1bs here right? You would not be mixing and mudding the picture I am sure

You would actually expect exactly this type of output because that's the basis of the the privilege to have the visa. But then we know so many abuses have happened with visa allocation that whatever the numbers are it should actually be higher.

Again it's their personal money isn't it? The US is all about freedom and wealth creation not socialism of controlling where people can spend their money.

The US also conducts business in India, they probably saved 1 trillion in a year from all the business so who exactly should be grateful?
It's not like the US did any of us a favour.

You keep making a song and dance, typically, about contributions specifically made by Indians.

But this hot air balloon is easy to pop

there have been substantial subtractions from the American economy

So you get foreign Indian workers the privilege to have that specific visa only for them to subtract from the American economy by sending money back.

That money grows the Indian economy not American economy, we are talking hundreds and hundreds of billions.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

We are talking about h1bs here right? You would not be mixing and mudding the picture I am sure

You would actually expect exactly this type of output because that's the basis of the the privilege to have the visa. But then we know so many abuses have happened with visa allocation that whatever the numbers are it should actually be higher.

Are you now? You quoted a comment saying Indians coming to the US. I could list out ten Indians who came to the US on H1B and made it big. H1Bs are can also be founders of tech companies. "You knowing about abuses" is not a quantifiable output. It's like someone accusing you of being a rapist with the argument "well, it's possible right?" Yeah no shit any man can be.

You keep making a song and dance, typically, about contributions specifically made by Indians.

But this hot air balloon is easy to pop

there have been substantial subtractions from the American economy

So you get foreign Indian workers the privilege to have that specific visa only for them to subtract from the American economy by sending money back.

That money grows the Indian economy not American economy, we are talking hundreds and hundreds of billions.

Go on try and pop the balloon that Indians are not contributing anything. Lol!

Every person who is legally in the US has a right to live and work the way their visa intented. That also includes sending money back because it's their money. If you buy Chinese goods you are also subtracting from American economy.

You having a problem with Indian economy growing is irrelevant. Regardless India is not dependent on remittance from US anyway. We spend more on American companies running here. So any benefit of Indian sending remittance is cancelled out through outflow of capital.

 

[Dalit]

Marco Rubio pushes back on India's concerns over US visa curbs, says policy must be 'America First' under Trump

Secretary of State Marco Rubio urges India to give immigration reform process time, calling it long-overdue 'modernization'

Rubio pushes back on India's concerns over US visa curbs, says policy must be 'America First' under Trump

Secretary of State Marco Rubio says Trump's immigration reforms are not targeted at India but applied globally during a news conference in New Delhi.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Dalit]

Indian Migration ‘Brutal Competition’ for Irish Middle Class

Economist Sinéad O’Sullivan has warned that Irish workers and graduates could face downward pressure on wages and reduced bargaining power as a result of migration flows associated with a prospective EU–India free trade agreement.

Indian Migration ‘Brutal Competition’ for Irish Middle Class - Gript

O’Sullivan says middle class will now experience what the working class endured: brutal competition for their livelihood in system designed by employers.

gript.ie

 

[Dalit]

Rubio Is In India, But Trump's America Just Launched Its Sharpest Attack On Indian Immigrants

Thousands of Indians who spent years following American laws and paying taxes in the US may now face the prospect of leaving the country during processing with no certainty of return timelines.

https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/rubio-visits-india-as-trump-administration-declares-its-sharpest-attack-on-indian-immigrants-11536458

 

[Dalit]

The numbers don't tell the whole story about Australia's biggest migrant group

As migration dominates politics, Indian Australians say the social cost is becoming personal.

For some Indian Australians, these words are no longer confined to fringe corners of the internet. As migration numbers dominate political and public debate, community leaders say they are increasingly part of daily life — cropping up in social media comment sections, on public transport, in workplaces and neighbourhood conversations.

The numbers don't tell the whole story about Australia's biggest migrant group

As migration dominates politics, Indian Australians say the social cost is becoming personal.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[KingQamaR]

Not just taxes, ideas, hard working culture, strong familial ties and largely low crime, higher wealth and job creation. The list goes on.

It is benefiting the US obviously. Remittance is spending, it's your own money after you pay the taxes.
So if you buy utensils or furniture you are remitting money to China. You're free to spend your money however you wish to. Once you collect the taxes that's the gratitude you give to the US. On top of it, Indians spend on social security in the US while getting no social security. I think that's enough thank you's.

If you Indians so smart why can’t you make India a better and stronger country to live in and prosperous instead of migrating all around the world in droves. London today looks like mini India. You’re completely missing the point here, when your Indian community tell tales , uk being taken over by Muslims. Now natives in Canada Australia New Zealand and in U.K. are now speaking out they do not want to be the next India.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

If you Indians so smart why can’t you make India a better and stronger country to live in and prosperous instead of migrating all around the world in droves. London today looks like mini India. You’re completely missing the point here, when your Indian community tell tales , uk being taken over by Muslims. Now natives in Canada Australia New Zealand and in U.K. are now speaking out they do not want to be the next India.

Who said we aren't. India already has the most number of unicorn startups after US and China. Being the fastest growing economy this situation is only going to accelerate. Nobody is even looking to migrate to London anymore. UK imported undesirable boat migrant who flooded the streets with their nuisance, and crime. Indian migrants are unfazed we can simply pack up and leave (take the wealth we earned with us) and Indians lead the way in leaving UK for other places. The cost of living in UK is also higher, a Tier 1 city like Bangalore or Hyderabad offer greater upward mobility and security than London.

 

[Musings]

Go on try and pop the balloon that Indians are not contributing anything. Lol!

Every person who is legally in the US has a right to live and work the way their visa intented. That also includes sending money back because it's their money. If you buy Chinese goods you are also subtracting from American economy.

You having a problem with Indian economy growing is irrelevant. Regardless India is not dependent on remittance from US anyway. We spend more on American companies running here. So any benefit of Indian sending remittance is cancelled out through outflow of capital.

Dont know much about the stats in the USA but the latest flood of "students" and care visa holders are contributing zero. Not attending Universities - begging on the streets - working for cash in hand jobs.
Indian flood has created incredible animosity and strain on those that are legitimately trying to earn corn. Its evident in every city i travel to. Normally dressed in tight jeans and tops that dont fit - with a pram - wandering the streets or begging.
Ye indian economy growing faster than your ego? The world views it differently.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Dont know much about the stats in the USA but the latest flood of "students" and care visa holders are contributing zero. Not attending Universities - begging on the streets - working for cash in hand jobs.
Indian flood has created incredible animosity and strain on those that are legitimately trying to earn corn. Its evident in every city i travel to. Normally dressed in tight jeans and tops that dont fit - with a pram - wandering the streets or begging.
Ye indian economy growing faster than your ego? The world views it differently.

Why is it in the freezing cold, indians wear winter jackets but walk in summer sandals with their feet exposed to the cold conditions. Don't indian feet get cold?