Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present
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Falcon29
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Widespread destruction in southern Lebanon as Israel races to destroy civilian infrastructure:
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Al-Hayek Restaurant Building, Kafrouz Junction, near the Internal Security Forces Complex
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Al-Hayek Restaurant Building, Kafrouz Junction, near the Internal Security Forces Complex
Ali_Baba
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It is irrelevant who asked for it. Either Lebanon acts like a real sovereign Country and mobilise its population to defend its land or it stops the pretence of being a sovereign country.l
Ali_Baba
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No one should help Lebanon…. No one..
Lebanon is a country of 6 million people!!! They can mobilise their own people if they want to defend themselves and their country.
They choose to not do so, and therefore they must suffer the consequences of that.
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Falcon29
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Mobilise their army you mean. The Lebanese government holds no cards just as Syrian government and Palestinian don't either. Only nation in immediate vicinity of Israel that may is Egypt and if everyone is picked off around Israel then eyes may be on Egypt and Syria/Turkey next.
They came to assistance of Gaza and the Axis, Iraqis have least to lose and can fire missiles/drones with least consequences.
Falcon29
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Major escalation sought by Israel on Lebanese front. To foil Iran deal? Or to take out Lebanese opponents to move onto Syria /Turkey /Egypt for military degradation?
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Ben Gvir: I say to Netanyahu, it's time to raze the Dahiya in Beirut to the ground
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Ben Gvir: I say to Netanyahu, it's time to raze the Dahiya in Beirut to the ground
Ali_Baba
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Had they bothered to invest in an army, then they would have had one to use. The point is, for DECADES and DECADEs, they choose to not invest in their defence of their country, despite being invaded many dozens of times by Israel, all the way to their capital. The nature of the terrain in Lebanon is such that light infantry with Man pads, and ATGM can easily hold Israel at bay. Look with how little Hezbollah had the last time Israel invaded and how well the IDF was held back to just 5 small pockets of land. Are you saying to me, that a government that should have been able to marshal 10x that number of people in their country in a wide mobilisation effort could not have done a better job if they had chosen to do so ??? Just look at how little Finland is with its very small standing army but a massive "trained" volunteer force when required, and how much of an army it can muster from its population... The Lebanese Government could have adopted the Finland model, but it choose not to. In fact, it chose to do nothing.
If after all the attacks Lebanon has undergone, if it has chosen to not evolve a national defence policy, then no one should feel any sympathy for them or come to their aid. If you cannot be bothered to defend yourself, then don't expect others to do it for you.
Let them take a look at Egypt or Türkiye, that is the problem of the respective countries and not Lebanon's or anyone else's. The point is both Egypt and Turkieye have evolved a national defence policy to defend their countries with what they have as has Finland, etc. Lebanon has done NOTHING at all in that regard. Nothing. Had Lebanon adopted a Finland type model, mobilised its young and then asked for international help to defend their country, then yes, help them. Lebanon has not done the first step, so no one should risk their necks for Lebanon.
Iraqi's should look after their own country, they have their own problems. Why should Iraqi's invite bloodshed in their country for the Lebanese Government, when the Lebanese Government refuses to shed the blood of the armed forces of Lebanon ???????
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