Monitoring: internal ethnic tensions & ethno-politics

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Popular Pashtun ethno-nationalist politician from Quetta, Mehmood Achakzai, says that every Pashtun should hold an Afghan national identity card, he says the barbied wire at the Durrand line was installed at the behest of America's orders.

In the larger speech he also says Pakistan is not the country of Pashtuns but Loy Afghanistan is their ancestral land of noble people, and warns Pakistan to not interfere in their matters.

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[hussain0216]

This is the type of bullshit harami propaganda we are stuck with

When you ask why is it so difficult to deal with the TTP or Afghanistan, the above is your answer

Scum, treacherous, harami behavior PTM, ANP, PTI it's all the same

Pakistan has sedition laws, but nothing ever happens


GHQ goes as soft as possible, tries to allow IBOs and police to deal with the terrorists because it knows that if it goes full battle mode against Afghanistan and TTP, these haramis in the ANP, PTM will jump around like monkey's


Get this motherfcuker dead or in jail

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

This is the type of bullshit harami propaganda we are stuck with

When you ask why is it so difficult to deal with the TTP or Afghanistan, the above is your answer

Scum, treacherous, harami behavior PTM, ANP, PTI it's all the same

Pakistan has sedition laws, but nothing ever happens


GHQ goes as soft as possible, tries to allow IBOs and police to deal with the terrorists because it knows that if it goes full battle mode against Afghanistan and TTP, these haramis in the ANP, PTM will jump around like monkey's


Get this motherfcuker dead or in jail

I think they can't use those sedition laws because he has a huge support base amongst Pashtuns which could lead to chaos/rebellion.

Most Pashtuns are to a degree ethno nationalistic, some openly separatist while others demanding more from Pakistan but still remaining ethno supremacist within the framework

 

[mythbuster]

This is the type of bullshit harami propaganda we are stuck with

When you ask why is it so difficult to deal with the TTP or Afghanistan, the above is your answer

Scum, treacherous, harami behavior PTM, ANP, PTI it's all the same

Pakistan has sedition laws, but nothing ever happens


GHQ goes as soft as possible, tries to allow IBOs and police to deal with the terrorists because it knows that if it goes full battle mode against Afghanistan and TTP, these haramis in the ANP, PTM will jump around like monkey's


Get this motherfcuker dead or in jail

You don't want to turn an asshole into a freedom fighting hero .

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

You don't want to turn an asshole into a freedom fighting hero .

Sounds like cowardice excuses if you can't enforce your own seidition laws. Either way his message is being spread further with every speech he does, eventual outcome will be the same.

On the contrary many functional and non-cowardly states like Turkey would have turned him into a slushy for this!

 

[mythbuster]

Sounds like cowardice excuses if you can't enforce your own seidition laws. Either way his message is being spread further with every speech he does, eventual outcome will be the same.

On the contrary many functional and non-cowardly states like Turkey would have turned him into a slushy for this!

Mr, machoman , Achekzai had been spewing such nonsense for decades now....he has very few takers , don't turn him into a hero.

 

[PakAl]

Pakistan national ideology is weak, our state does not work hard in order to spread its ideology, the unity of Pakistan, being Pakistani, Allama Iqbal ideology. PTI was that ideology but due to grievances has moved to KPK and now has no choice but to use Pashtun nationalism in order to survive. Pmln is Punjabi nationalist party and PPP Sindhi. Pakistan experiment was to use jihadi wahabi ideology to counter these types but made a fatal mistake, the jihadi ideology is also foreign, pro Saudi and Arab nationalist.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Pakistan national ideology is weak, our state does not work hard in order to spread its ideology, the unity of Pakistan, being Pakistani, Allama Iqbal ideology. PTI was that ideology but due to grievances has moved to KPK and now has no choice but to use Pashtun nationalism in order to survive. Pmln is Punjabi nationalist party and PPP Sindhi. Pakistan experiment was to use jihadi wahabi ideology to counter these types but made a fatal mistake, the jihadi ideology is also foreign, pro Saudi and Arab nationalist.

Mere bhai, kya ideology? It only used religious extremism for unity. In turn it created an unintended worse consequence that radicalised society beyond measure and empowered mullahs who wanted even more extremism like at the level of ISIS. The side effect reached schools, government, foreign policy, army, economy - such policy damages you more than helps.

The moment you look for legitimacy in religion, there will always be someone more extreme than you to undermine you. Truth is religion cannot make up for lack of true native identity.

And naturally, much of Pakistans ethnicities are not compatable, the more demographics mix, the more the risk of bloodshed one day becomes more extreme. The main ethno risks remain from Balochs and Pashtuns who have a supremacy concept and expansionist designs.

 

[delta2]

I think they can't use those sedition laws because he has a huge support base amongst Pashtuns which could lead to chaos/rebellion.

Most Pashtuns are to a degree ethno nationalistic, some openly separatist while others demanding more from Pakistan but still remaining ethno supremacist within the framework

Okay so let him keep the whole State as a hostage?

Ask the Afghan govt to issue an ID for him, then revoke his Pakistani IDs, put him on a plane/bus/train and send him to Afghanistan. His followers can join him and leave, or rebel and take up arms and die like dogs, or grow up and act like normal citizens.

The majority of people are sick and tired of these old cuck boomer uncles who have nothing better to do with their lives. There is either the writ of the State, or there isn't.

 

[delta2]

This is the type of bullshit harami propaganda we are stuck with

When you ask why is it so difficult to deal with the TTP or Afghanistan, the above is your answer

Scum, treacherous, harami behavior PTM, ANP, PTI it's all the same

Pakistan has sedition laws, but nothing ever happens


GHQ goes as soft as possible, tries to allow IBOs and police to deal with the terrorists because it knows that if it goes full battle mode against Afghanistan and TTP, these haramis in the ANP, PTM will jump around like monkey's


Get this motherfcuker dead or in jail

No really, the Pakistani govt should tell these so called nationalists to name a place and a date and have a war. Winner takes all. Simple as that. If they want to keep playing this nonsense to keep the State in a politically disrupted state, then they must wager with their lives since their claims cause the enemies of the State to feel relaxed and have a sigh of relief.

They can live as normal citizens, or they can risk certain death if they believe they will go to the Paradise.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

No really, the Pakistani govt should tell these so called nationalists to name a place and a date and have a war. Winner takes all. Simple as that. If they want to keep playing this nonsense to keep the State in a politically disrupted state, then they must wager with their lives since their claims cause the enemies of the State to feel relaxed and have a sigh of relief.

They can live as normal citizens, or they can risk certain death if they believe they will go to the Paradise.

Bro I fully agree with you of course but you need understand this cowardice mentality has seeped deep into our society and establishment.

They are afraid, lack strategic foresight and clarity and in the process let themselves be blackmailed by people like this who bleed them out slowly.

In any functional state they realise such a status quo cant be allowed because it breeds perpertual instability and even a military solution is better.

 

[delta2]

Mere bhai, kya ideology? It only used religious extremism for unity. In turn it created an unintended worse consequence that radicalised society beyond measure and empowered mullahs who wanted even more extremism like at the level of ISIS. The side effect reached schools, government, foreign policy, army, economy - such policy damages you more than helps.

The moment you look for legitimacy in religion, there will always be someone more extreme than you to undermine you. Truth is religion cannot make up for lack of true native identity.

And naturally, much of Pakistans ethnicities are not compatable, the more demographics mix, the more the risk of bloodshed one day becomes more extreme. The main ethno risks remain from Balochs and Pashtuns who have a supremacy concept and expansionist designs.

What nonsense? Try making this argument in and against ANY mature and serious state like the USA, or China, or the UK, or Norway, or Turkiye, or Russia, or Japan, or evenin Afghanistan and see what happens.

In Pakistan every idiot and his uncle has a theory.

Race based identity politics are stupid and nonsendical because two or three generations back or forwards, the ethnic/racial mix changes.

 

[delta2]

Bro I fully agree with you of course but you need understand this cowardice mentality has seeped deep into our society and establishment.

They are afraid, lack strategic foresight and clarity and in the process let themselves be blackmailed by people like this who bleed them out slowly.

In any functional state they realise such a status quo cant be allowed because it breeds perpertual instability and even a military solution is better.

Besides, you can bet all his children and grand children are enjoying life in the West.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

What nonsense? Try making this argument in and against ANY mature and serious state like the USA, or China, or the UK, or Norway, or Turkiye, or Russia, or Japan, or evenin Afghanistan and see what happens.

In Pakistan every idiot and his uncle has a theory.

Race based identity politics are stupid and nonsendical because two or three generations back or forwards, the ethnic/racial mix changes.

Brother those are immigrant nations today who lost their original identity, and even then, there is a massive rise in native nationalism and racism so its not a good example.

Afghanistan is a Pashtun ethnic supremacist state that committed several genocides to homogenise, Turkey is a Turkish state, and China is Han-centred.

So what you are saying is not exactly accurate. Post-racialism is a post-WW2 globalist project led by Zionists and collapsing.

 

[delta2]

Brother those are immigrant nations today who lost their original identity, and even then, there is a massive rise in native nationalism and racism so its not a good example.

Afghanistan is a Pashtun ethnic supremacist state that committed several genocides to homogenise, Turkey is a Turkish state, and China is Han-centred.

So what you are saying is not exactly accurate. Post-racialism is a post-WW2 globalist project led by Zionists and collapsing.

No brother I disagree. At present every single White country has a bigger White population than they did in the past, numbers wise. The current fear-mongering against immigrants/brown/black/coloured people is very well organized and is indirectly managed by the highest levels of power in those countries.

They have not lost their identity, on the contrary their identities have never been stronger. The real reason is that they are only afraid of losing their sole monopoly of organized state sponsored violence against the non-Whites, so they are creating issues out of thin air and causing havoc.

You need to understand how the Anglo-Saxon, the Zionist and the Western ruling class mind works and its way of thinking.

I would recommend you start going to a local library and begin reading literature, specifically novels, if you have the time.

Or you could watch the Deep Space 9 episode In the Pale Moonlight, it will give you a glimpse into the mind at work.