Racist attacks leave New Zealand's Indian community feeling 'hounded'

[r3alist]

A complete myth. In my experience interacting with Indians abroad, most of them have a far better work life balance than their Indian counterparts, who have to also contend with terrible commutes and poorer work culture back home.

What is probably true is that Indians are willing to put in extra hours at work, or utilize their free time in learning something new rather than hitting the gym or socializing, as compared to their white counterparts. They are also more eager to climb the ladder.

On another note, Indians in India, especially blue collar workers are pretty hard working, but that kind of work does not pay well most of the time. But if you have good enough skills and some enterprising spirit, as a carpenter, plumber, foreman, electrician you can make more money than bottom of the rung 'software engineers' who are also working at minimum wages. Maybe it will take a decade or more for Indians to get a collective boot on their backside and realise that they are better of training themselves in vocational skills rather than rely on 'IT' jobs

Much of this is context driven, let's also be very clear that Indian culture does put emphasis on education, upward mobility and financial growth.

I believe it is these attributes which help the overall community, however American and European cultures allow more individual choice which is not money obsessed.

That being said, that in no way implies superior intelligence or work ethic at all, the cultural drivers and ambitions create a nose for opportunism and this might help the individuals the family the group but it can be a detriment to the overall country if we are talking about h-1bs.


The major benefit is the wealth extraction back to India and the corporations, it takes some real chutzzpahhh to then say you are contributing to the host society, actually you are moving wealth back to India and predominantly your own group benefits, which would go someway to explaining why average household income is high when husband and wife are playing the visa game.
There is a blind spot in the national psyche where they cannot read the room and instead of saying they had a good run, a very privileged run of dominating the visa system for a few decades, rather they have invited a whole new hostility from other groups. That is not smart, that is stupid. There is another prominent group which does not go around as much talking how they are successful here or there, they actually keep it low key

To that end the h1b crew is actually divisive in their own society with their endless self promotion which many do not agree with as standing on merit only. Paying taxes is not a contribution, having a host society that has rules and economic opportunity for you to benefit from is a privilege not a right

 

[Musings]

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I’ve probably met more high society Pakistanis in the UK than you’ve seen outside your forum bubble.

lol

How many high society Pakistanis do you meet on your pakora stand? Bro calm down and debate articulately. Stop lowering the standards to an Indian forum - come on - be a good lad

 

[Paitoo]

I believe it is these attributes which help the overall community, however American and European cultures allow more individual choice which is not money obsessed.

The people migrating out of India are by default the ones that find India 'slow' for making money or whatever else in Maslow's pyramid. As such it is a specific set of people and cannot be compared to the natives on the 'money mindedness' yardstick.

Paying taxes is not a contribution, having a host society that has rules and economic opportunity for you to benefit from is a privilege not a right

Again, it has to be seen in context. This 'I am a contributor' retort is for people who are calling Indians free loaders like some blacks and latinos and even many whites who are currently surviving on state support.

 

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[Dalit]

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This is just so accurate. They forgot P0rkis and P0rkistan LOL

 

[Dalit]

lol

How many high society Pakistanis do you meet on your pakora stand? Bro calm down and debate articulately. Stop lowering the standards to an Indian forum - come on - be a good lad

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