Shags101
Trusted Member
To show they can and still have the missiles to do so at anytime be it in the gulf or Israel
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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To show they can and still have the missiles to do so at anytime be it in the gulf or Israel
Watandar
Elite Member
There may be a shortage of SRBM's. Iran did expend a lot of material and suffered quite a lot of losses in the war. Some other members were questioning why Iran isn't able to hit US warships or GCC radar sites and the answer is probably the same, shortage of capable weapons.
Immortals
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Has nothing to do with optimistic thinking and reality on the ground. Rouhani signed JCPOA in 2015 and war still didn’t come for another decade till an imbecile like Trump was able to come into power. And the war was a direct consequences of Khamenai Strategic Patience which he paid with his life alongside the other pacifist Nasrallah. Same philosophy and same outcome for both.
Iran has now had 2 rounds of war with Israel and U.S. In this latest one, the U.S. threw everything it had and in the end because it couldn’t achieve its objectives was attacking bridges and power plants out of fustration. Iran has learned a lot from this experience and it will take the U.S. years to rebuild its armament only to be able to stage another 30-60 day war.
And What are they gonna attack in 5 years? The remains of Natanz? The already defunct Fordow? Or The new nuclear program that is likely to be highly dispersed and underground in tiny facilities with the sole purpose of bomb generation and not fuel cycle?
The missile supply chain will be scattered even more and likely moved underground. Same for the drone production lines. Certain projects will get high priority development and the complacency that was the Hallmark of the Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh IRGCregime will not be tolerated under Vahidi. The war provided the opportunity for the system to cleanse itself and face reality.
So we shall see if your Debbie downer prophecy prevails, I suspect it will not. Iran will come out of this stronger and likely there will be a period of peace much longer than people expect.
The biggest threat to Iran has always been itself thru internal politics that manifests itself vis a vi the economy and social unrest.
925boy
Elite Member
US can't focus on Iran effectively over the next 10-20 years, because it will have to focus on the Asian Pacific situation - US and its allies will have to confront China over Taiwan, and based on US's low stamina while fighting Iran this year, im confident US won't be able to effectively fight or dismantle Iran in 10-20 years(excluding any special circumstances or realities ). US won't even have the financial power or privilege to handle more than 1 serious global conflict at a time. Ukraine started this chain reaction for US and its continuing...going from one disaster to another means US ends up probably exhausted and disoriented, and this isn't me being negative, it's me accepting US is a nation of mortals and defeat is thee evenvtual result of obsessive and impulsive imperialist nations.
Yasser76
Elite Member
Interesting that Iran has laid off Saudi and Qatar and their FM on record as saying both those countries are on the right side of history.
Kuwait, UAE and Bahrain are f**ked after any peace deal
Meengla
Elite Member
The cliches people use like 'There are no friendships in geopolitics but only the interests' or like 'every nation fights for its own interests' or 'everyone is free to make their own choice' or that 'war is unpredictable' or that 'water is wet' and similar tropes are said by totally soul-less people. I wonder if such people ever loved anyone, or felt fealty to anyone or any nation, or they know any emotions or even a sense of belongings.
This war could not have happened unless two very pro-war compatible people: Trump and Netanyahu were in the office in their respective countries at the same time. Not even a Neftali Bennet in Israel would have launched this war. So when I say this is a 'personal' war, I say that with full conviction and a conviction against the cliches guys who post here: This, I believe, is a personal war.
PK781
Trusted Member
good analysis, but we're quite far from the americans getting a new president, and lately, they all have been fucked up morons.
I wouldn't hold much hope for them getting an anti-israeli leader anytime soon, its always zionist picked leader as they control america.
these gulf kinglets are pretty much done, all investment and tourists gone and its not looking good. Whoever invested there, has LOST the investment. There will be no buyers for that desert fake-nations
as u said, fake countries and fake citizens. All the false glitter and glamour has fast disappeared outta there. America continues to drain their economies fast.
Jango007
Registered Member
I so badly wish these thugs showed up in Scarborough near my high school ….. let’s just say they will never walk straight again .
RedRock
Registered Member
Really dissappointed with Putin. After all that the US and NATO have done against his army in Ukraine you would think that he would support Iran all out. Buy alas he has turned out to be a traitor and untrustworthy ally. Russia can not be relied on at all to come to your support.
Considering the whole world is calling this war illegal and is against it you would think that Putin would have supplied enough equipment and intel allowing iran to sink a ship or two of the usa just like ukraine has done to them. But nothing!!! It's unbelievable. I feel the Russian Jews have Putin by his balls and he cannot piss without their permission.
Think about it. As much as Putin hates zelensky the dude is till alive. How is that even possible. You would think that the Russians would be able to kill him easily but they still have not managed to do so.
Give the iranians jets and s400/500 or even 300's, buk systems, helicopters, Jammers, awacs, anything man. But to just talk and not support them militarily will make the Russians lose their influence completely and allow the Chinese to take over. The Chinese will not provide outright military support whatsoever. Only financial, and that too with massive interest rates. But at the end of the day atleast they have supplied covertly more military equipment that the russians
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RedRock
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I have a feeling this war will continue till israel has completed its mission in lebanon and Syria. Just today they were upto something in the Golan heights and in lebanon the lebanese army has basically surrendered the South of their country to israel and the israelis are not stopping. They are continuing to advance.
The fpv hits by Hezbollah are not enough to deter the israelis. If there were 1000's of them then yes it would be unattainable for Israel but a meagre amount of less than 10 does not really bother them much. Lets see why the lebanon army chief is coming to pakistan tomorow. The moron does not realise Iran is looking out for his country. If it was not for Iran they might as well surrender there entire country to Israel which is sadly what is going to happen.
Once the israelis have most of lebanon and parts of Syria they will then sign a deal with Iran. Until then nothing will change. Also, they will try and destroy more of Iran's missiles and make sure the deal includes the HEU. Because once that is secured, Israel has practically won. And the US will have achieved its objective. Removing any major threat to israel
Also, revoking Jordan's ownership or whatever u call it of Al Aqsa will cause an uprising and u can kiss jordan goodbye as well.
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Meengla
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On X, I have some posts say 'The Russian Disease'.
The Russians are lame, not strategic thinkers, are cannon-fodders of their poor soldiers. Since the birth of the Soviet Union they were brilliant in industrial revolution, brilliant in science and tech, brilliant in agriculture revolution, brilliant in military hardware but seem to can't decide their long term goals. They can't seem to walk away from a West which doesn't consider them as part of the European civilization but they desperately try to cling to be a part of Europe. The only European Russia is to the West of the Urals. A small territory of drunkards and mental cucks in of a nation blessed with many natural resources. A nation which has squandered its immense potentials especially after the Fall of the Soviet Union. Unimaginable heights brought down to unimaginable lows.
FUB
Trusted Member
IRGC does not need SRBMs to hit PGCC radars. The ones that mattered are already toast. They can use drones, which they do regularly. These are people who import 80-90% of their food. If the Americans are depleted, the PGCC have nothing. They are the last in line. First, the masters in Tel Aviv get the new production batches, then the GOYIM, and last the donkeys across the Persian Gulf. The SRBM stocks are in the hundreds of thousands. Since they do not fear American Air power, they may be using old missiles nearing expiration. It is also a snub at the Americans by firing liquid-filled missiles in broad daylight. Once missiles are shown to the public, they have been deployed and are nearing the end of their service.
Winthorpe
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Until there is utter chaos in the Middle East only then it will be considered ‘Mission accomplished’ with one regional if not defacto global hegemon. Until then the situation will worsen.
