How Iran Targeted the US F-35 for the First Time Ever | Air Commodore (R) Khalid Chishti Explains

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Seems like Mr Chisti has taken some of MINE and @Khafee's information on how to detecct the stealth aircraft fro this very forum.

Me & him had discussed in detail about the issue---. I had come up with the idea that no stealth could be targetted thru electronics mean but thru a photographic lead---.

@Khafee brought up a picture of an F-22 on view thru an IR resource.

Also when the iranians shot down the F35---I had mentioned the same---how it happened and supposedly a "Majid" IR detection system was used.

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[Corax]

Hi,

Seems like Mr Chisti has taken some of MINE and @Khafee's information on how to detecct the stealth aircraft fro this very forum.

Me & him had discussed in detail about the issue---. I had come up with the idea that no stealth could be targetted thru electronics mean but thru a photographic lead---.

@Khafee brought up a picture of an F-22 on view thru an IR resource.

Also when the iranians shot down the F35---I had mentioned the same---how it happened and supposedly a "Majid" IR detection system was used.

Mr. Chisti is winging it left and right

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That's hardly a secret or rocket science.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

Well, congratulations, sir. We are privileged to have very well informed people like you, Bilal and Arsalan sahib on our forum.

Regards

 

[Ak01]

Hi,

Seems like Mr Chisti has taken some of MINE and @Khafee's information on how to detecct the stealth aircraft fro this very forum.

Me & him had discussed in detail about the issue---. I had come up with the idea that no stealth could be targetted thru electronics mean but thru a photographic lead---.

@Khafee brought up a picture of an F-22 on view thru an IR resource.

Also when the iranians shot down the F35---I had mentioned the same---how it happened and supposedly a "Majid" IR detection system was used.

Mr. Chisti is winging it left and right

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who let him out? someone lock him back up again...

 

[MastanKhan]

That's hardly a secret or rocket science.

Hi,

Some 15 years ago---it was---I guess.

 

[Corax]

Hi,

Some 15 years ago---it was---I guess.

No man, if you can't track a fighter on radar you're left with little choice but to use IR passive tracking. The Mig29 back in the 70/80s was the first fighter to adopt an IRST for passive detection. You're making out as if you revealed some amazing unknown thing.

 

[MastanKhan]

No man, if you can't track a fighter on radar you're left with little choice but to use IR passive tracking. The Mig29 back in the 70/80s was the first fighter to adopt an IRST for passive detection. You're making out as if you revealed some amazing unknown thing.

Hi,

Did you write about it 15 years ago---? I didn't see you comment at that time when talk was hot about how to deal with the 5th gen---.

 

[Corax]

Hi,

Did you write about it 15 years ago---? I didn't see you comment at that time when talk was hot about how to deal with the 5th gen---.

So just because you happened to "write" about it, no one knew about it?! Man, you have one hell of ego, what a narcissist!

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

is this guy fr? lmao

 

[RJV]

Be careful Sir.
The kind of mood Trump is in, if he finds out it was you who floated the idea, we might be welcoming you back at Lahore airport

 

[Goenitz]

Hi,

Did you write about it 15 years ago---? I didn't see you comment at that time when talk was hot about how to deal with the 5th gen---.

We now have a few technical discussions here and there. So, don't mind if you cannot get some educational/technical argument/rebuttal.

Though I didn't write it up but always thought having thermal imaging sensor like search radar. They can easily detect heat signatures in the upper atmosphere's cold background.


Then IR sensor can lock in like tracking radar.

 

[MastanKhan]

So just because you happened to "write" about it, no one knew about it?! Man, you have one hell of ego, what a narcissist!

Hi,

That is how people learn and share things---. Something that is not visible becomes visible.

If the knowledge was so open---what stopped the iraqis to counter the heat signature---or PAF installing a dedicated IR sensor to the JF17---.

Son---reaction shows you are a very bitter person---. Please guide me to some of your thrilling exiting posts on this forum to see if you are worth your salt that you claim to be.

 

[MastanKhan]

Go take your meds old man. Going senile now. You don't know the the Iraqis operated the Mig29, which has an IRST, the first fighter ever with an IRST. But the Iraqis were too scared anyway, they flew their mig29s to Iran. As for JF17, it was developed with cost in mind, and limited space for an IRST, it might change given miniaturisation of the tech, but back when it was developed, it wasn't feasible or too costly, and a dedicated IR pod would have taken up a valuable hard point. Bark less and think more.

Hi,

I will answer you---and you will go running to your 'daddy' the mods---.

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[MastanKhan]

We now have a few technical discussions here and there. So, don't mind if you cannot get some educational/technical argument/rebuttal.

Though I didn't write it up but always thought having thermal imaging sensor like search radar. They can easily detect heat signatures in the upper atmosphere's cold background.
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Hi,

The usage of techlogy increase with a multipler effect overtime---.

Sometimes the solutions to critical problems are simple---.

Like Iran---produced a massive numbers of drones and SS missiles---a number so large that the opponents ran out of interceptors---.

Then they came up with the 'Majid' air defence system---.

All information is relative to time---.

If you read the book " The Hunt For Red October " now---it would just be another ordinary book.

But in 1986-87---it shook the foundations of the russian naval fleet from which it could never recover till this day---.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

The usage of techlogy increase with a multipler effect overtime---.

Sometimes the solutions to critical problems are simple---.

Like Iran---produced a massive numbers of drones and SS missiles---a number so large that the opponents ran out of interceptors---.

Then they came up with the 'Majid' air defence system---.

All information is relative to time---.

If you read the book " The Hunt For Red October " now---it would just be another ordinary book.

But in 1986-87---it shook the foundations of the russian naval fleet from which it could never recover till this day---.

Hi,

But just because we know about new things today---does not mean---that we can develop a weapon today to counter the issue just like that---.

Thre development of the Iranian "Majid system" would have taken years to develop to make it operational as it has been made to operate in combat.

Military weapons systems that are designed to destroy---deceive and deny enemy aircraft take many a years to develop.

To design a successful system to take down the F-35 inflight is a major major major development that would have taken over a decade to develop.

To make it operational---have the patience to wait---accept destruction of their frontline intercept systems---wait till the enemy has LOWERED DOWN ITS GUARD and then to let them have it with the proverbial " both the barrells "---hit them with success---.

Then years from now---when the true capability and the ability of the system will become known---I think that the shockingly simplistic design of the system will surprise us more than its capabilities.

As always---all critical problems have simplistc slutions---.

The race for survival has made the man make simple hand made guns in remote mud house with simple tools and a simplistic furnace---.

The same thing has happened over here---. A nation that cannot design a fighter aircraft---has manufactured a system to take down the stealth aircraft---.

This is a MONUMENTAL FEAT in itself---. We have lived in a age---where the word " impossible " has become PASSE---.

And where young people speak out of turn shamelessly showing a lack of character trying to insult and degrade with ther tongues wagging and mouths wide open---.