Is the US Ready for War with China?

[KAL-EL]

the US will not go to war against China anytime soon.

Just as China will not go to war with the US anytime soon.

 

[SolarWarden]

These articles are so full of cht and never get into the details of thee most important part of modern warfare and that is combine arms/joint-command of their whole military. PLA severely lacks this just like the Russian military and it showed in Ukraine.

You can have all these cool toys in your military but if you don't know how to properly use them against a world class military superpower that will dominate the EM spectrum and battlespace picture they are nothing but easy targets.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China will keep pumping up its military toys regardless the US is ready or not.

 

[Viet]

Just as China will not go to war with the US anytime soon.

A war would lead to mutual annihilation with millions of deaths. for what?
At best there would be some minor shootings and be something like the US vs USSR confrontation during the Cold War. Until one country is bankrupt.

 

[ety]

China will keep pumping up its military toys regardless the US is ready or not.

Looks like Chinese build all those fancy military new toys just for fun becus they haven't learned how to properly use them, lol.

 

[KAL-EL]

A war would lead to mutual annihilation with millions of deaths. for what?
At best there would be some minor shootings and be something like the US vs USSR confrontation during the Cold War. Until one country is bankrupt.

Well of course I know that, you know that, but some of these freaks actually think they can win a nuclear war with another nuclear power.

You see my friend, we live in the real world, unlike the fantasy world some hyper nationalists live in.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Looks like Chinese build all those fancy military new toys just for fun becus they haven't learned how to properly use them, lol.

Because of hybrid warfare as China is now enjoying as a new hub for the foreign capital.

A punishment war toward Japan might disrupt this trend.

China is now focusing to overwhelmingly cement the win of the high tech ai race.

 

[Viet]

Well of course I know that, you know that, but some of these freaks actually think they can win a nuclear war with another nuclear power.

You see my friend, we live in the real world, unlike the fantasy world some hyper nationalists live in.

The only risk is miscalculation of both sides about Taiwan, I don’t think any risk associated to Japan or Korea.

 

[Beijingwalker]

PLA severely lacks this just like the Russian military and it showed in Ukraine..

If there are something we learned from Ukraine and Iran wars, it's old legacy war strategy and mentality are no longer appliable to today's modern warfare, they are more of a liability than an asset in future wars.

 

[baqai]

All I can say is that you are only seeing a fraction of US military power in use.

What have we seen of China’s experience in military operations? None. All we see is the potential, not the actual use, of China’s military. Let's see how their weapons work in an actual war.

Remember, China is supposed to invade and capture Taiwan, but its military is green. And it doesn't help matters that Xi is busy purging his military.

China do have second hand knowledge of their weapon systems and effectiveness, they did pretty well against some top of the line 4th gen fighters in a recent conflict (i am sure you would not want me to elaborate on that)

If we just look at recent history we see Afghanistan retreat, Somalia incident, Failed hostage rescue in Iran are just few of the text book examples of why having all the might in the world does not necessarily means you win

IMO China is sitting idle and watching the dominos fall, why waste energy, let the class bully jump around and exhaust first

 

[Watandar]

Did the US and Soviets ever go to war ? No, but they engaged in countless proxy battles as well as competition in tech, business, media, sports etc. Same will be how US-China goes, with the Chinese increasingly having the upper hand, unlike US-Soviet where the US increasingly had the upper hand.

 

[Starlord]

Yes, you did. And, I saw one this afternoon. Stopped by the local toy store.

From reviews online, it seems like a good start up weapon for practice and just shooting. I am considering it but right now i don't need it, i need to go to range couple of more times and see if i need to spend 500-600$ on something which i will barely use.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

If there are something we learned from Ukraine and Iran wars, it's old legacy war strategy and mentality are no longer appliable to today's modern warfare, they are more of a liability than an asset in future wars.

The problem in Ukraine is the Russians are too entrenched (no pun intended) in tactics used since WWI.

 

[SolarWarden]

Every time a PDF chinese post a cliche western article how mighty china military is and how US losing its military superiority I'll keep posting REALITY.

by Brandon Temple, opinion contributor - 09/16/25 11:30 AM ET
China’s recent and massive military parade commemorating the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II highlighted concerns around that nation’s “unprecedented military buildup.”

And yes, China is indeed building up its military equipment at a faster pace than the U.S. But there’s a twist.

China may have a lot of hardware, but the U.S. military enjoys three key asymmetric advantages over China that bode well for our chances in any conflict — the joint-mindedness of our forces, the unity of our command and our empowered non-commissioned officer corps.

Joint warfighting is hard. The U.S. learned hard lessons during Vietnam and subsequent operations, such the Iranian hostage rescue attempt, on how interservice rivalry can lead to defeat. The Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986 was designed to create a truly joint fighting force.

The U.S. Armed Forces are now obsessively joint-minded. The U.S. has a functioning joint staff, led by the chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff. The principal U.S. warfighting commands in each theater are inherently joint.

Joint exercises are routine. For those progressing through their military careers, joint professional military education is mandatory. There is no force that does joint warfare better than the U.S.

In contrast, as a January RAND report noted, Chinese sources admit they are way behind on joint integration, struggle to train joint warfighters and “lack competent joint commanders.”

Ironically, armed services in communist political systems are not characterized by their ability to work together toward a common objective. Rather, they exist in power-based systems where the Communist Party and its survival are supreme.

Everybody in the system is fighting to remain in the good graces of power and avoid the next purge.

M.I.T professor and China researcher M. Taylor Fravel has written that purges among China’s high command are creating an “insecurity dilemma” that will degrade unity of command and joint operations.

To be sure, joint force commanders have been relieved of command in the U.S. However, the joint systems and processes are so well indoctrinated in the U.S. that the joint war machine drives on. Once a new commander is in place, unity of command is unquestioned.

The purge factor that paralyzes the top ranks of militaries in authoritarian systems trickles down to all the forces below. It is risky to show initiative or make decisions, whether you are a general or a private.

Training for war is very different from fighting one. It’s a common military maxim that no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

When things do not go according to plan, militaries require empowered non-commissioned officers at the point of attack to make decisions and maintain tempo and the initiative.


The U.S. military’s non-commissioned officer corps may be its most lopsided advantage over China’s People’s Liberation Army. I tell anyone who will listen that non-commissioned officers form the backbone of the U.S. military, and that’s not hyperbole.

As a former enlisted troop myself, I have seen sergeants and corporals lead on the battlefield time and again. Even in times when they questioned their own empowerment, they were biased toward taking action.

In contrast, China’s non-commissioned officer corps has been called the “weak backbone” of China’s fighting forces. This is not because the individual soldiers are incompetent, but because authoritarian regimes are not comfortable with the concepts of empowerment or initiative.

When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, I was a defense legislative fellow advising a member of Congress on the House Armed Services Committee.

He asked me, “Why do you think Russia was unsuccessful in getting to Kyiv when we were briefed Kyiv would fall in a matter of days?” In response, I said three things.

First, we tend to assess military strength in terms of the quantity of hardware rather than on the people and processes required to wield it effectively.

Second, joint warfare is hard — Russia attempted an American-style, joint multi-access, shock-and-awe invasion and it failed.

Finally, authoritarian regimes bristle at the idea of empowering their non-commissioned officers.

I stand by my assessment, and I believe a similar situation exists with China. To be sure, I am not suggesting that a conflict with China would be easy. But I am not convinced that China can effectively wield the hardware it is developing so rapidly.

The first two Special Operations Forces truths are: “Humans are more important than hardware” and “Quality is better than quantity.” I believe these aphorisms both apply here.

China has a lot of hardware, no doubt. What they lack, however, are the empowered people and joint processes required to wield if effectively.

Lt. Col. Brandon Temple, Ph.D., is an Air Force special warfare officer currently serving in Air Force Futures. He was previously a defense legislative fellow serving as national security adviser to a member of Congress.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5503936-china-empowerment-challenges/

The issue with majority of chinese in here is they only see the shiny modern toys and not the integration, training and leadership it takes to make it work. PLA military branches are not integrated/united each head of those branches are CCP appointees people that Xi can trust. Now they've taken steps in the Joint-Command direction but they are a long way away.

When US trains/exercise with allies they go all out as in they don't hold back in the EM realm because they are not worried about allies knowing each others EM frequencies and also don't hold back on tactics. When US trains with non-ally nations they have restrictions on what is used and how it is used like when USAF and Indian air force had an air exercise where US F-15's weren't allow to use BVR missiles. When Russia and China train it's for show/display only. Both hold back since they don't fully trust each other. US has put their combine arms/Joint-Command fighting capabilities through real wars unlike PLA.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Every time a PDF chinese post a cliche western article how mighty china military is and how US losing its military superiority I'll keep posting REALITY.

by Brandon Temple, opinion contributor - 09/16/25 11:30 AM ET
China’s recent and massive military parade commemorating the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II highlighted concerns around that nation’s “unprecedented military buildup.”

And yes, China is indeed building up its military equipment at a faster pace than the U.S. But there’s a twist.

China may have a lot of hardware, but the U.S. military enjoys three key asymmetric advantages over China that bode well for our chances in any conflict — the joint-mindedness of our forces, the unity of our command and our empowered non-commissioned officer corps.

Joint warfighting is hard. The U.S. learned hard lessons during Vietnam and subsequent operations, such the Iranian hostage rescue attempt, on how interservice rivalry can lead to defeat. The Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986 was designed to create a truly joint fighting force.

The U.S. Armed Forces are now obsessively joint-minded. The U.S. has a functioning joint staff, led by the chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff. The principal U.S. warfighting commands in each theater are inherently joint.

Joint exercises are routine. For those progressing through their military careers, joint professional military education is mandatory. There is no force that does joint warfare better than the U.S.

In contrast, as a January RAND report noted, Chinese sources admit they are way behind on joint integration, struggle to train joint warfighters and “lack competent joint commanders.”

Ironically, armed services in communist political systems are not characterized by their ability to work together toward a common objective. Rather, they exist in power-based systems where the Communist Party and its survival are supreme.

Everybody in the system is fighting to remain in the good graces of power and avoid the next purge.

M.I.T professor and China researcher M. Taylor Fravel has written that purges among China’s high command are creating an “insecurity dilemma” that will degrade unity of command and joint operations.

To be sure, joint force commanders have been relieved of command in the U.S. However, the joint systems and processes are so well indoctrinated in the U.S. that the joint war machine drives on. Once a new commander is in place, unity of command is unquestioned.

The purge factor that paralyzes the top ranks of militaries in authoritarian systems trickles down to all the forces below. It is risky to show initiative or make decisions, whether you are a general or a private.

Training for war is very different from fighting one. It’s a common military maxim that no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

When things do not go according to plan, militaries require empowered non-commissioned officers at the point of attack to make decisions and maintain tempo and the initiative.


The U.S. military’s non-commissioned officer corps may be its most lopsided advantage over China’s People’s Liberation Army. I tell anyone who will listen that non-commissioned officers form the backbone of the U.S. military, and that’s not hyperbole.

As a former enlisted troop myself, I have seen sergeants and corporals lead on the battlefield time and again. Even in times when they questioned their own empowerment, they were biased toward taking action.

In contrast, China’s non-commissioned officer corps has been called the “weak backbone” of China’s fighting forces. This is not because the individual soldiers are incompetent, but because authoritarian regimes are not comfortable with the concepts of empowerment or initiative.

When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, I was a defense legislative fellow advising a member of Congress on the House Armed Services Committee.

He asked me, “Why do you think Russia was unsuccessful in getting to Kyiv when we were briefed Kyiv would fall in a matter of days?” In response, I said three things.

First, we tend to assess military strength in terms of the quantity of hardware rather than on the people and processes required to wield it effectively.

Second, joint warfare is hard — Russia attempted an American-style, joint multi-access, shock-and-awe invasion and it failed.

Finally, authoritarian regimes bristle at the idea of empowering their non-commissioned officers.

I stand by my assessment, and I believe a similar situation exists with China. To be sure, I am not suggesting that a conflict with China would be easy. But I am not convinced that China can effectively wield the hardware it is developing so rapidly.

The first two Special Operations Forces truths are: “Humans are more important than hardware” and “Quality is better than quantity.” I believe these aphorisms both apply here.

China has a lot of hardware, no doubt. What they lack, however, are the empowered people and joint processes required to wield if effectively.

Lt. Col. Brandon Temple, Ph.D., is an Air Force special warfare officer currently serving in Air Force Futures. He was previously a defense legislative fellow serving as national security adviser to a member of Congress.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5503936-china-empowerment-challenges/

The issue with majority of chinese in here is they only see the shiny modern toys and not the integration, training and leadership it takes to make it work. PLA military branches are not integrated/united each head of those branches are CCP appointees people that Xi can trust. Now they've taken steps in the Joint-Command direction but they are a long way away.

When US trains/exercise with allies they go all out as in they don't hold back in the EM realm because they are not worried about allies knowing each others EM frequencies and also don't hold back on tactics. When US trains with non-ally nations they have restrictions on what is used and how it is used like when USAF and Indian air force had an air exercise where US F-15's weren't allow to use BVR missiles. When Russia and China train it's for show/display only. Both hold back since they don't fully trust each other. US has put their combine arms/Joint-Command fighting capabilities through real wars unlike PLA.

That's a lot of words to say that US indeed can not sustain major wars anymore due to lack of overall industrial capability which it enjoyed in WW2 and some following decades.