Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Of course, some Pakistanis suffer even more from the join-the-bandwagon-of-evil mentality I cited. Thank you, Oldenwiz, for promptly providing such an example.

So now you're also an aspiring barometer on suffering? Innuendo, operable words and phrases... to direct and equivocate!

True disciple of Shapiro... on your way Solomon2!
 
Totally understand the reasons why Hezbollah did not engage but from my perspective if Hezbollah launched a full scale attack on the entity back at the end of October, and with Hamas and the Houthis also engaged, then the entity would have come under immense military pressure to call a ceasefire.

The only real additional help the US/West could have given over and beyond what it has given is some 100 fighter bombers from the two carriers but that would not have made much of a difference.

It was correct for Hezbollah to not go to full assault on Israel after October 7 and it is still correct to not launch a full assault. The option to launch the full assault remains and almost certainly will be exercised if/when Gazan resistance faces total annihilation. Why so? Because Hezbollah knows they would be next then.
As of now, the Gazan resistance is still present and regrouping even in northern Gaza. The supply line from Egypt are still working but probably in lesser extent. Israel's diplomatic isolation is growing and even internally the Israeli govt could collapse any day. Chuck Schumer's scathing attack on Netanyahu was a public proof of Israel's mounting problems. Biden may not be able to stop Netanyahu even if he wanted to but he could start limiting supply of some weapons or withhold some other help.
 
My entire "factual update" post was deleted. Why not change your mind and bring it back? Did it violate a forum rule or was it just a matter of whim?
Post it here, for all to see, I won't remove it this time. Unpalatable to me as it is.
 
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Al Jazeera Arabic aired video showing Israeli soldiers shooting dead two Palestinians while they walked in an open area along the coast, apparently trying to return to northern Gaza.


One of the men repeatedly waves what looks to be a white towel. The footage also shows Israeli soldiers burying the two with a bulldozer after they were killed.
 
Post it here, for all to see, I won't remove it this time. Unpalatable to me as it is.

Fathers of Gazan children getting medical care in Israel fear return to ravaged enclave

They were overjoyed that their children could be treated in Israel due to an agreement with the Palestinian Authority, and most do not want to return; 'We don't want to go back to hell'

Adir Yanko, Adam Kutub|09:06

Since October 7, three men from Gaza, Ahmed, Mohammed and Joseph (not their real names), have been worried. Their children are getting medical treatment at the Sheba Medical Center in Israel, and last week they were given the news that they were afraid of hearing: They have to go back to Gaza.

"I'd rather they kill me here and not go back to Gaza," said Ahmed, the father of one of the children being treated. Due to the efforts of the Physicians for Human Rights organization and Ynet's reports, the High Court stopped the return order to return to Gaza issued to the children and their families, as well as to other cancer patients from East Jerusalem.

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עזתים שנמצאים בתל השומר עם ילדיהם חולי סרטן

Gazan fathers in Sheba Medical Center (Photo: Shaul Golan)

Ahmed is now ready to become an Israeli citizen. "Life in Gaza isn't good. We're not happy. We left our families and we don't want to go back to the difficult life in Gaza," he said. He also spoke about how he felt after getting the news about going back to Gaza. "I was fasting and couldn't eat afterwards. I told them I'm not going to Gaza to die. We'd love to stay here forever, but it's not possible," he said. Joseph, another father, added: "The Israeli army is going to go into Rafah. Let us stay here until everything is over. Then we can go back to our lives in Gaza. Our children still need medical help."

The Palestinian Authority arranges for people from Gaza to get medical treatment in Israel. Ahmed, Mohammed and Joseph are all grateful for the medical team in Israel. "Despite all the chaos, the doctors were very professional," one of the fathers said.

This is what happened behind the scenes. The families from Gaza were told they had to leave on Sunday, about a week and a half ago. Then that decision was put on hold, until they were told again last Wednesday that they had to leave. But a few hours later, they were told that the decision was put on hold again.

Mohammed described how he felt when he was told he had to leave: "I felt choked. It was tough. My parents are in southern Gaza and some of my family is in the north. Where can I go with all the bombings and the war going on?" He added: "They want to move us from a safe place to a war zone. This isn't right. We have nothing to do with this war. Let us leave after there is a cease-fire."

Two of these individuals have spent more than three years in Israel, with periods of coming and going, and one of them has been moving between Gaza and Israel for over five years. As they describe it, the reality of life in the border area between Gaza and Israel is especially challenging.

"Every person in Gaza prays for a chance to live and earn a living in Israel. When we left Gaza for Israel, we felt a sense of relief, like we could finally breathe," Joseph says. Mohammed echoes this sentiment: "We want to live. Life in Gaza is difficult in so many ways – education, health, employment. I completed my accounting studies but couldn't find a job. Can you imagine how many others are in the same situation?"

When asked what he would say to Israelis who might fear that they or their family members could harm Israelis, despite receiving medical treatment in Israel, Mohammed responds that "not everyone is involved in the extreme actions of Hamas. We're peace-loving people. Why should we pay the price for what Hamas does? We came here legally. What do the sick have to do with all this?"

מפגינים נגד גירוש חולי סרטן לעזה בית חולים ספרא

Doctors with a sign that says 'Compassion above all' (Photo: Shmulik Dudapur)

"Every sick Gazan hopes to be transferred to Israel for treatment by the best doctors. Of the two million Gazans living in Gaza, maybe only 20% are associated with Hamas. The rest of us just want to live," according to Joseph.
They understand that many Israelis may have lost trust in them after the events of October 7, especially when those who have helped Gazans get treatment in Israel were harmed or kidnapped, such as Oded Lifshitz, 83, who was kidnapped into Gaza.

"Wherever you look, you'll find people who resort to violence. But not all people are the same or think the same way," Mohammed says.

"In Israel, they think that Gaza is full of ignorant and uneducated people, but that's not true," he adds. "The extremists are usually the ones highlighted. It's crucial to understand that there's no future or hope in Gaza. Hamas is the main employer. Most young people who join Hamas do so because they see it as their only option to earn money since there are no jobs."

Reflecting on the chaos that began on October 7, Joseph says: "People were disturbed. It simply devastated us. Why? What did those young people or adults in Israel do to deserve such a thing?"

 

Several killed in Israeli bombardment​


Our colleagues at Al Jazeera Arabic are reporting that several people have been killed and others injured in an Israeli attack that targeted the tribal committees responsible for securing aid south of Gaza City.

Earlier this month, Israeli air strikes targeted tribal aid distribution workers in Gaza City’s Kuwait Roundabout, killing at least 23 people.
 
I do not think what happened so far in Gaza shows the Zionist terrorists can damage Hezbollah that much.

Hezbollah has more favourable terrain and more and much better weapons. They would find it very difficult to grab and hold Lebanese territory, especially as they are split with Hamas in the south.

Only ace card that the entity has is bombing Lebanese civilians and infrastructure but Hezbollah can reply in kind now with its 150,000+ rockets and missiles. Hezbollah does not need to do equivalent damage but make the price high enough that the Zionists would think it would not be worth their while to bomb Lebanon as a whole.

Totally understand the reasons why Hezbollah did not engage but from my perspective if Hezbollah launched a full scale attack on the entity back at the end of October, and with Hamas and the Houthis also engaged, then the entity would have come under immense military pressure to call a ceasefire.

The only real additional help the US/West could have given over and beyond what it has given is some 100 fighter bombers from the two carriers but that would not have made much of a difference.

"Muslim states mainly Erdogan and Arab regimes could cut their sea and land routes to israhell and this could harm israhell much more" - I agree but they are a lost cause.

I was watching some youtube videos

Zionists in their wet dreams had attached Syria and Iraq to their fake occupying state as greater israhell

Neocans has enough power to occupy and level these countries

Syria is already under total sanctions and Lebanon under heavy sanctions

It doesn't matter how sharp glasses are, yet they can't break rocks

Muslims need to act wisely and calculated against enemies

AnsarAllah has already been nightmare of zionists in red sea and they also shooted many missiles toward israhell however their missiles intercepted by Saudis and Egypt

Iraq's Hezbollah have missiled tel aviv and haifa

Hezbollah is also shooting rockets, missiles and drones since 8th october
 
Al Jazeera Arabic aired video showing Israeli soldiers shooting dead two Palestinians while they walked in an open area along the coast, apparently trying to return to northern Gaza.
I don't usually do videos but I did do this one. Could find both shooting incidents, just one. Even in the whited circle, there's nothing showing that an Israeli soldier shot the guy, or even definitively that the guy was shot and it wasn't more Pallywood.
One of the men repeatedly waves what looks to be a white towel. The footage also shows Israeli soldiers burying the two with a bulldozer after they were killed.
Doesn't appear to be the same bodies as those that fell on the beach. The video has cuts. I saw bodies pushed by a bulldozer. I suppose one is supposed to extrapolate and think that the bodies were buried and that's enough for propaganda purposes.

Without knowing the purpose for the action I can't criticize it: corpses may have been collected for intelligence purposes, identification, etc. Afterwards, it would be good if an effort was made to treat such bodies with dignity. Is there an Arab organization that is dedicated to such, independent of terrorists, comparable to the Israeli Zaka?
 
I don't usually do videos but I did do this one. Could find both shooting incidents, just one. Even in the whited circle, there's nothing showing that an Israeli soldier shot the guy, or even definitively that the guy was shot and it wasn't more Pallywood.

Doesn't appear to be the same bodies as those that fell on the beach. The video has cuts. I saw bodies pushed by a bulldozer. I suppose one is supposed to extrapolate and think that the bodies were buried and that's enough for propaganda purposes.

Without knowing the purpose for the action I can't criticize it: corpses may have been collected for intelligence purposes, identification, etc. Afterwards, it would be good if an effort was made to treat such bodies with dignity. Is there an Arab organization that is dedicated to such, independent of terrorists, comparable to the Israeli Zaka?
Tell me Solomon genuinely since you are the only Israeli on our forum, do you support an independent inquiry into the current conflict? Why have Israel blocked independent observers from entry into Northern Gaza, Gaza City and West Bank?

Do you not think that this lack of transparency on the part of Israel hampers and hinders the message your nation wishes to convey? What is the end goal (apart from the removal of Hamas?)

Why is the Israeli government facilitating settlers to occupy additional territory along the Gaza border in addition to the existing Nir Am? Why is the ground water table for Gaza being allowed to be polluted by agricultural run-off from settlements?

Why is it that the Jordanian Medical Emergency Team - who have provided guarantees from 10 nations been refused to air-lift casualties from Rafah? Why is the Israeli state refusing the entry of aid trucks into Gaza which have been vetted by the ICRC and UN? Are they not credible and independent in the eyes of your country?

Is anyone and everyone who doesn't toe the Israeli line an anti-Semite?
 

Fathers of Gazan children getting medical care in Israel fear return to ravaged enclave

They were overjoyed that their children could be treated in Israel due to an agreement with the Palestinian Authority, and most do not want to return; 'We don't want to go back to hell'

Adir Yanko, Adam Kutub|09:06

Since October 7, three men from Gaza, Ahmed, Mohammed and Joseph (not their real names), have been worried. Their children are getting medical treatment at the Sheba Medical Center in Israel, and last week they were given the news that they were afraid of hearing: They have to go back to Gaza.

"I'd rather they kill me here and not go back to Gaza," said Ahmed, the father of one of the children being treated. Due to the efforts of the Physicians for Human Rights organization and Ynet's reports, the High Court stopped the return order to return to Gaza issued to the children and their families, as well as to other cancer patients from East Jerusalem.

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עזתים שנמצאים בתל השומר עם ילדיהם חולי סרטן

Gazan fathers in Sheba Medical Center (Photo: Shaul Golan)

Ahmed is now ready to become an Israeli citizen. "Life in Gaza isn't good. We're not happy. We left our families and we don't want to go back to the difficult life in Gaza," he said. He also spoke about how he felt after getting the news about going back to Gaza. "I was fasting and couldn't eat afterwards. I told them I'm not going to Gaza to die. We'd love to stay here forever, but it's not possible," he said. Joseph, another father, added: "The Israeli army is going to go into Rafah. Let us stay here until everything is over. Then we can go back to our lives in Gaza. Our children still need medical help."

The Palestinian Authority arranges for people from Gaza to get medical treatment in Israel. Ahmed, Mohammed and Joseph are all grateful for the medical team in Israel. "Despite all the chaos, the doctors were very professional," one of the fathers said.

This is what happened behind the scenes. The families from Gaza were told they had to leave on Sunday, about a week and a half ago. Then that decision was put on hold, until they were told again last Wednesday that they had to leave. But a few hours later, they were told that the decision was put on hold again.

Mohammed described how he felt when he was told he had to leave: "I felt choked. It was tough. My parents are in southern Gaza and some of my family is in the north. Where can I go with all the bombings and the war going on?" He added: "They want to move us from a safe place to a war zone. This isn't right. We have nothing to do with this war. Let us leave after there is a cease-fire."

Two of these individuals have spent more than three years in Israel, with periods of coming and going, and one of them has been moving between Gaza and Israel for over five years. As they describe it, the reality of life in the border area between Gaza and Israel is especially challenging.

"Every person in Gaza prays for a chance to live and earn a living in Israel. When we left Gaza for Israel, we felt a sense of relief, like we could finally breathe," Joseph says. Mohammed echoes this sentiment: "We want to live. Life in Gaza is difficult in so many ways – education, health, employment. I completed my accounting studies but couldn't find a job. Can you imagine how many others are in the same situation?"

When asked what he would say to Israelis who might fear that they or their family members could harm Israelis, despite receiving medical treatment in Israel, Mohammed responds that "not everyone is involved in the extreme actions of Hamas. We're peace-loving people. Why should we pay the price for what Hamas does? We came here legally. What do the sick have to do with all this?"

מפגינים נגד גירוש חולי סרטן לעזה בית חולים ספרא

Doctors with a sign that says 'Compassion above all' (Photo: Shmulik Dudapur)

"Every sick Gazan hopes to be transferred to Israel for treatment by the best doctors. Of the two million Gazans living in Gaza, maybe only 20% are associated with Hamas. The rest of us just want to live," according to Joseph.
They understand that many Israelis may have lost trust in them after the events of October 7, especially when those who have helped Gazans get treatment in Israel were harmed or kidnapped, such as Oded Lifshitz, 83, who was kidnapped into Gaza.

"Wherever you look, you'll find people who resort to violence. But not all people are the same or think the same way," Mohammed says.

"In Israel, they think that Gaza is full of ignorant and uneducated people, but that's not true," he adds. "The extremists are usually the ones highlighted. It's crucial to understand that there's no future or hope in Gaza. Hamas is the main employer. Most young people who join Hamas do so because they see it as their only option to earn money since there are no jobs."

Reflecting on the chaos that began on October 7, Joseph says: "People were disturbed. It simply devastated us. Why? What did those young people or adults in Israel do to deserve such a thing?"


A hell of zionist creation!
A concoction of a depraved ideology that has fomented a modern day catastrophe, an artificial famine!

The world sends food but zion decides if Gazans get to eat or not... the demigods, henchmen of the devil who deprive their own occupation of food.
We live a Dystopia when a parasitic pretender entity of persecuted minority, piggybacking on the superpower of the time carves out from a much larger a small and manageable one and puts them through trials of its own creation!

Are Those heifers killed and burnt yet to cleanse you... an impurity, one of heart?
 

Pakistan joins calls for immediate action on UN resolution

UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan has joined other nations in urging for the prompt implementation of a UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution that calls for a Ramazan ceasefire, paving the way for a lasting and sustainable peace in Gaza.
 
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