Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Yes, but I am 100% certain that the Emiratis sent Iran an airplane with $3billion in cash. Why? Because when it happened, I was randomly checking flight radar to see what was happening over the region and I noticed a strange flight from the Emirates in Tehran. A day later, the news said that the Emiratis had paid us $3 billion in cash.

So, as long as the US is going to pay us in cash, I think we're good. We really need to do something about our economy before continuing the war. Fighting without money is impossible. And our so-called "allies" are neutralizing our efforts to keep oil prices high. What other options do we have?

As for Araghchi, you know that I am not surprised. You guys cheered a new era in the Islamic Republic where the IRGC would call the shots, but I knew nothing would change. Late Khamenei wasn't the issue, the whole system is full of incompetent corrupt people.

Did you see Zibakalam's interviews lately? the first time I heard him say the IRGC hardliners are actually less powerful now, I thought he was an idiot. but every day it seems he is more right. I guess they are mostly business people in the end.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah ok.......if we take your word for it.......then keep on goin no?

Why stop?

Finish da job no?

Like the colluddzz hendu says......eeejy peejy matey mate no?

Keep goin no?

Whats da matter?

The US and Israel need more time to prepare for the next rounds. Their AD has been depleted and it will take months to recover, at least. Also, today was the IPO of SpaceX. Maybe they needed a pause in the war for economic reasons. That's besides the undeniable fact that time is currently on their side.

And it is impossible to get their hands on our 60% HEU buried in Natanz and Fordow. First of all, they need to excavate for weeks. Secondly, it's all radioactive down there and is most likely full of corrosive gases. Thirdly, the UF6 gas containers most likely have been damaged and decontamination of that area will take weeks or even months.

So, the US knows that achieving the objective of taking our 60% HEU cannot be done militarily. They're trying to lure us into doing it with our permission.

 

[ShapurII]

Did you see Zibakalam's interviews lately? the first time I heard him say the IRGC hardliners are actually less powerful now, I thought he was an idiot. but every day it seems he is more right. I guess they are mostly business people in the end.

There is no doubt that the conservative party in Iran has become severely weakened after the assassination of General Soleimani. It took years, but slowly, they removed every influential anti-West figure in Iran to slowly reshape Iran's politics.

Khamenei made two huge mistakes. The first one was to allow the reformists to return to power after the Green Movement. Secondly, Khamenei's cautiousness and his foolish optimism about "no negotiation, no war, no nukes" led to losing all of his close friends like Soleimani and Raeesi before getting bombed in his office. The reformists now have the upper hand in Iran's politics, I think.

 

[mangekyo]

And our so-called "allies" are neutralizing our efforts to keep oil prices high.

What do you mean?

 

[TumbaX]

The US and Israel need more time to prepare for the next rounds. Their AD has been depleted and it will take months to recover, at least. Also, today was the IPO of SpaceX. Maybe they needed a pause in the war for economic reasons. That's besides the undeniable fact that time is currently on their side.

And it is impossible to get their hands on our 60% HEU buried in Natanz and Fordow. First of all, they need to excavate for weeks. Secondly, it's all radioactive down there and is most likely full of corrosive gases. Thirdly, the UF6 gas containers most likely have been damaged and decontamination of that area will take weeks or even months.

So, the US knows that achieving the objective of taking our 60% HEU cannot be done militarily. They're trying to lure us into doing it with our permission.

Yes Israel will keep on attacking may be after few months or few years but you will never see any Americunts directly involved in Iran war support yes,
This war has shown without the courage to put a million men on ground war status and nature of Iran regime cant be changed.

Iran should take the deal where they can bring Iranian oil and gas in free market even if the trade happens in US dollars, get the monies prep for next rounds.

 

[Al-Zakir]

If referring to the US public school system, forget about it.

Public school is a joke a now a days.
They are more focused on convincing boys to become girls and vice versa. Especially, in democratic control state.

I took my kids out of Public school for the reason above and put them in private Islamic school ( similar to catholic school).

Public school in 80s and 90s used to be good. We can't compete with the world with shifty mindset like this.

 

[ShapurII]

What do you mean?

China has significantly reduced her oil imports per reports and Russia has ramped up her oil exports. Both actions negatively impact our struggle to keep oil prices high. Ironically, Ukraine almost saved us by targeting Russia's energy infrastructure.

 

[ShapurII]

Yes Israel will keep on attacking may be after few months or few years but you will never see any Americunts directly involved in Iran war support yes,
This war has shown without the courage to put a million men on ground war status and nature of Iran regime cant be changed.

Iran should take the deal where they can bring Iranian oil and gas in free market even if the trade happens in US dollars, get the monies prep for next rounds.

Israel alone cannot do significant damage to Iran. 13,000 strikes on Iran in 39 days wouldn't have been achieved without the US involvement.

 

[BigMela2onin]

What do you mean?

Iraq is exporting oil through the SoH toll free.

 

[925boy]

imo iran probably wants a european venue becasue they think it would legitimise the deal more , also swtizerland saar

this decision was probably made by iranians , us doesnt care apart from security but they did send jd and nothing went wrong

tbh be thankfull they rememberd us and named it islamabad MOU , and they didnt sign it in qatar or turkey

Geneva is Iran's choice IMO because Switzerland is an established, reliable, internationally established neutral state, especially if it agrees to mediate between 2 conflicting parties.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Their bases are far from rubble. The US still retains the capability to launch war on Iran.

Honestly, when you look at the situation from the perspective of an average Joe, the US adventure in Iran hasn't cost the Americans much. Close to $100 billion, which is not that much for the US's one trillion dollar military budget, and fewer than 15 deaths.

And how much have they lost economically?

Countries like U.K. and Japan are further in debt and less able to prop up the dollar.

And what about their GCC poodles?

Are they more likely or less likely to buy US weapons?

Total cost runs into trillions.

 

[ShapurII]

Iraq is exporting oil through the SoH toll free.

That too, and we are enabling them to do so, which is nothing short of treason.

 

[BigMela2onin]

That too, and we are enabling them to do so, which is nothing short of treason.

The worst part is anything they make is going to a bank account in NY. So essentially those ships are shipping US oil.

 

[ShapurII]

And how much have they lost economically?

Countries like U.K. and Japan are further in debt and less able to prop up the dollar.

And what about their GCC poodles?

Are they more likely or less likely to buy US weapons?

Total cost runs into trillions.

Well, all I can say is that the Emirati officials said that the recent Iranian strikes have convinced them to purchase more weapons from the US and get closer to Israel.

I think contrary to what people here believe, Arabs like Bahrain, Kuwait and the Emirates would buy more American weapons after this. They are already investing in US air defense systems.

As for the US, even if we include the US indirect loss like higher oil prices and other stuff, I'm sure it won't exceed $150 billion. That's peanuts for the US. The US official cost for the war is about $50 billion or so. Now let's generously round it up to $100 billion. The Americans use 375 million gallons of gasoline per day. Average price has increased by about $1. That hardly exceeds $40 billion since the start of war until now. Trillions is too optimistic.

 

[Al-Zakir]

Israel alone cannot do significant damage to Iran. 13,000 strikes on Iran in 39 days wouldn't have been achieved without the US involvement.

Iran broke Israhell's back. It can no longer walk straight and bully around the neighborhood like it used to.

I hope some sense prevail in Muslim states, strategize and prepare for final battle.

Gazi salahuddin first united the Muslim worlds and then the Muslims conquered Jerusalem under his leadership.