Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

No VC "wait and see" heng!

Not 60... one who who keeps harping needs to be spoon fed also... is it because you can't see... perhaps you can wait.

It is within 30 days...

Please let me add some color to you Golden "Showers" Wisdom:

I have already said that there is an immediate cessation of hostilities, opening of the SoH (free for 60 days), and waivers until the sanctions themselves are removed in the final agreement.

The real issues will take 60 days, or more, to finalize.

 

[Immortals]

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There needs to be a serious re-evaluation in Tehran about their ties with the Houthis.

They did NOT show up in this war.

• Hezbollah showed up
• Iraqi militias showed up
• Even Syrian rogue elements showed up I believe behind the scenes helping with logistics.

Houthis? Fired a few missiles and drones.

So either their armament is critically low and they need a full Iranian rebuild à la Hezbollah post 2006 and 2024. Or they are not reliable allies and should be downgraded and more weapons funneled to other groups.

 

[VCheng]

point I’m making is even at best these ‘mechanisms’ achieve nothing more than what you already had

The point you are claiming is simply premature - we do not know the details of these mechanisms yet, so it is impossible to say whether they achieve nothing or much.

Unless you can see the future. If you can, please go right ahead.

 

[VCheng]

Imagine asking your stockbroker if you should go long or short on oil....and the dude just smiles wryly and says "time will tell".

Imagine having the common sense to know the difference between investing in the commodities markets and trying to predict complex geopolitical events that are still in the future.

 

[Avicenna]

Iran should probably expedite their arms deals and take advantage of this pause.

Basically prepare for the next round.

Also, might wanna start shopping in China for weapons.

 

[tsunset]

So far since the MoU fiasco we haven't heard at all of the final boss of traitors, Reza Pahlavi

No information as to whether he will be deported to Iran in the final deal or not

 

[VCheng]

They already happened

When did "they" already happen? We have an MoU thus far, that is all. We have certain events to happen in 30 and 60 days, but that is still in the future. And there are difficult negotiations ahead.

 

[Watandar]

There needs to be a serious re-evaluation in Tehran about their ties with the Houthis.

They did NOT show up in this war.

• Hezbollah showed up
• Iraqi militias showed up
• Even Syrian rogue elements showed up I believe behind the scenes helping with logistics.

Houthis? Fired a few missiles and drones.

So either their armament is critically low and they need a full Iranian rebuild à la Hezbollah post 2006 and 2024. Or they are not reliable allies and should be downgraded and more weapons funneled to other groups.

Yemen is a poor country and the Houthis are one faction among many. You forget the common man in Yemen is not concerned about foreign affairs but with everyday needs.

I do think the Houthis overperformed during the Gaza conflict and their tussle with the US cost them heavily yet they persisted till the end. Yes they most likely need a full rebuild.

It's the Iraqi militias who have not shown up in both conflicts to date. Just a few of them participated and you could argue they owe far more to Iran then Hezb or Houthis.

But there again we must remember that Iraq has been in perpetual conflict since the 1970's and it's people now want peace, at any price.

 

[ShapurII]

There needs to be a serious re-evaluation in Tehran about their ties with the Houthis.

They did NOT show up in this war.

• Hezbollah showed up
• Iraqi militias showed up
• Even Syrian rogue elements showed up I believe behind the scenes helping with logistics.

Houthis? Fired a few missiles and drones.

So either their armament is critically low and they need a full Iranian rebuild à la Hezbollah post 2006 and 2024. Or they are not reliable allies and should be downgraded and more weapons funneled to other groups.

Iraqi militias didn't do much. Hezbollah showed up, but to be fair, they couldn't achieve much against Israel either. In fact, if anything, they are another headache for us now because we have to ensure that the ceasefire extends to them as well.

It is another proof of why Iran's policy of arming militias to contain Israel was a bad investment.

 

[TAC]

The point you are claiming is simply premature - we do not know the details of these mechanisms yet, so it is impossible to say whether they achieve nothing or much.

Unless you can see the future. If you can, please go right ahead.

Err… no not the future, just the present which is clearly too painful for you and some of your pals to accept. I can understand that, must hurt bad.

 

[VCheng]

just the present

That is just the MoU. If you have anything more than that, please do let us know. Thanks.

 

[TAC]

When did "they" already happen? We have an MoU thus far, that is all. We have certain events to happen in 30 and 60 days, but that is still in the future. And there are difficult negotiations ahead.

So nothing has happened so far? O ok, whatever helps you cope better.

 

[VCheng]

So nothing has happened so far?

Please wake up.

The MoU has indeed happened thus far. I have mentioned that many times, as have many others.

The MoU has done three things: ceased the hostitlties, opened the SoH, and waived the sanctions.

The rest is still being negotiated.

 

[TAC]

That is just the MoU. If you have anything more than that, please do let us know. Thanks.

You are not prepared to answer specific questions about that memo in relation / comparison to the Obama accord so what’s the point asking them repeatedly? You are in cope mode, best of luck with that.

 

[TAC]

Please wake up.

The MoU has indeed happened thus far. I have mentioned that many times, as have many others.

The MoU has done three things: ceased the hostitlties, opened the SoH, and waived the sanctions.

The rest is still being negotiated.

O so I must have just dreamt everything like all orange idiots numerous threats and humiliating climb downs, everything he has now offered Iran for NOTHING more than what he already had but threw away in the Obama Accord. Now reduced to turning on his demonic Israeli pals and praising Iranian leadership, all my dreams right, none of that has happened has it?