Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

A very fat elephant are USA refuelers in Ben Gurion airport.

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USA is only removing 20% of them

Why they keep the other 80%?

To keep the threat there. A threat they won’t follow through on unless they fancy the Hormuz closed again & Iran knows it.
 
Vance is really taking it to the Israelis lol. His message to Netanyahu is "SHUT UP ABOUT THE IRAN DEAL".



Technically they are a country of 7million, as 2 million are palestinans who do not have equal rights to the majority, ie an aparthied state! But - I am splitting hairs here.
 
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Now that the MoU is signed. I do expect strongly there will atleast be another Round with Iran and Israel. Israel will never accept this deal. However i think US is done now.

Iran needs to plan very very smart now

Because Israel and U.S will rearm and Iran needs to try and match that pace

I don't know how and when sanctions will end or what the full deal is

But Iran needs to get it's missile and drone production back to full capacity ASAP

Iran needs to ink military deals with China/Russia for A.D

And it needs to learn the lessons of the conflict,
What worked
What failed
Which missiles and drones were most effective
And what were they missing the most


Israel feels vulnerable, they were confident under U.S and western Shadow, freely committing atrocities

But the world is changing and Israel sees culture enemies around it with it's reputation in tatters across the world

This will make the Israelis more extreme then ever and they will plot and prepare to harm iran

They have another upcoming battle for southern Syria and the Golan, but that's for Syria/Turkey and the Arabs to deal with
 
NY Times topmost story right now!! Note, I had posted a video of JD Vance in Megyn Kelly show two days ago where he went after the Israel Firsters and here he is again!!


Vice President JD Vance on Thursday delivered an extraordinarily direct rebuke to Israeli critics of the U.S.-Iran peace agreement, as he sought to defend the preliminary deal with repeated misrepresentations of some of its terms.

“Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time,” Mr. Vance said. He added, “If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.”

The agreement has faced mounting criticism from Israeli lawmakers, as well as some Republicans in Washington, who argue that it gives Iran economic relief while punting negotiations on its nuclear program down the road.
 
NY Times topmost story right now!! Note, I had posted a video of JD Vance in Megyn Kelly show two days ago where he went after the Israel Firsters and here he is again!!


Vice President JD Vance on Thursday delivered an extraordinarily direct rebuke to Israeli critics of the U.S.-Iran peace agreement, as he sought to defend the preliminary deal with repeated misrepresentations of some of its terms.

“Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time,” Mr. Vance said. He added, “If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.”

The agreement has faced mounting criticism from Israeli lawmakers, as well as some Republicans in Washington, who argue that it gives Iran economic relief while punting negotiations on its nuclear program down the road.
I think trump is doing a watch and see approach he won’t totally bash Bibi and his cronies he will wait to see if his supporters approve or disapprove of Vance statements if they approve he triple down on Vance’s comments but all depends on if they’re willing to dump aipac
 
NY Times topmost story right now!! Note, I had posted a video of JD Vance in Megyn Kelly show two days ago where he went after the Israel Firsters and here he is again!!


Vice President JD Vance on Thursday delivered an extraordinarily direct rebuke to Israeli critics of the U.S.-Iran peace agreement, as he sought to defend the preliminary deal with repeated misrepresentations of some of its terms.

“Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time,” Mr. Vance said. He added, “If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.”

The agreement has faced mounting criticism from Israeli lawmakers, as well as some Republicans in Washington, who argue that it gives Iran economic relief while punting negotiations on its nuclear program down the road.

Don’t trust Vance.

He is a pure chameleon.

If the votes were there he wouldn’t hesitate to wage wars.
 
I think trump is doing a watch and see approach he won’t totally bash Bibi and his cronies he will wait to see if his supporters approve or disapprove of Vance statements if they approve he triple down on Vance’s comments but all depends on if they’re willing to dump aipac

The only thing that ties MAGA together is white grievance.

Everything and everyone else is pure transactional.

Don’t make the mistake of trusting them.
 
So far since the MoU fiasco we haven't heard at all of the final boss of traitors, Reza Pahlavi

No information as to whether he will be deported to Iran in the final deal or not

I am sure you will update all here, when something changes on that front !
 
Trump realizes he can’t win the war. Putin knows he can’t win the war. having overwhelming firepower is too little win if the opponents are military capable and willing to fight until death.

By Jove!

He finally gets it!

That’s why we called the war outcome very early.

Whilst you wanted to wait and see 🤣

USA cannot win because Muslims aren’t turning on each other.

Russia cannot win because Western Europeans will prop up Ukraine forever.
 
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It's the same question asked from the same AI about PIA that @AZ_HighCountry had asked about Iran Air, the same "comprehensive post" you were touting. And it has sources.

Your questions are idiotic. PIA has fallen, that's the answer. But then, Iran Air has fallen further. PIA did fly direct to New York. Everything can be easily googled, you petulant child.

Yeah, genuinely hard to think if it is worth wasting our time. Pay a compliment to Iran Air's past and how it can transform for the future and then end up debating with some clown about how it was not the greatest ever airline 50 years ago.....
 
Alright kids, let's gather 'round. Grandpa AZ has something to share.

I tried to be neutral in how the following question was asked of ChatGPT:

In the 1970s, how did Iran Air compare with Pakistan International airlines in terms of service, quality, and reliability?

A reasonably fair and neutral question, right?

Answer:

In the 1970s, both Iran Air and Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) were considered strong, internationally competitive flag carriers, but they had different strengths and slightly different global reputations.
A good way to compare them is across service, comfort, and reliability in that era.

✈️ 1. Overall global standing (1970s context)​

Iran Air

  • Rapidly rising “modernization success story”
  • Often described as one of the fastest-growing and best-managed airlines globally in the 1970s
  • By the mid–late 1970s:
    • Among the safest airlines in the world (top tier alongside Qantas)
    • Highly profitable and professionally run

PIA

  • Already a prestige carrier in the 1960s and early 1970s
  • Known as an innovator in passenger service
    • Early adopter of long-haul jets and widebodies
    • Strong international presence (Europe, North America, Asia)
  • Reputation peaked slightly earlier than Iran Air’s “golden era”

🧭 2. Reliability (punctuality, safety, operational consistency)​

Iran Air (stronger in the late 1970s)​

  • Extremely strong safety record (among the best globally)
  • Highly centralized, professionally managed under Ali-Mohammad Khademi
  • Considered very reliable operationally for long-haul routes
  • Ranked near the top globally in safety metrics of the era

PIA (strong but more variable)​

  • Also had a solid safety and operational record in the 1970s
  • Known for pioneering long-haul operations (e.g., early 747 use, long-range routes)
  • However:
    • More exposure to political and organizational fluctuations
    • Slightly less consistent operational discipline compared with Iran Air’s peak-era management style
Verdict (reliability):
  • Slight edge → Iran Air (late 1970s)
  • But both were well above global average

💺 3. Service quality (cabin experience, hospitality, consistency)​

PIA (generally stronger in “passenger experience” reputation)​

PIA in its peak era was famous for:
  • Strong hospitality culture
  • Early innovations in passenger service (often credited with pioneering in-flight entertainment concepts in the region)
  • A “friendly, warm” service reputation that stood out internationally

Iran Air​

  • More formal, standardized service style
  • High-quality catering (especially Persian cuisine on international routes)
  • But less globally known for “luxury service personality”
  • Crew professionalism high, but not as “iconic” as Gulf-style hospitality that came later
Verdict (service):
  • Slight edge → PIA
  • Iran Air = more formal excellence
  • PIA = more memorable hospitality experience

🛋️ 4. Comfort and fleet quality​

Iran Air (late 1970s advantage in modernization)​

  • Very modern fleet for the time:
    • Boeing 747 variants
    • Airbus A300 (introduced late 1970s)
    • Long-haul nonstop capability (e.g., Tehran–New York)
  • Designed as a hub-style global connector airline

PIA​

  • Also modern and prestigious:
    • Early Boeing 747 operator
    • DC-10 and widebody long-haul capability
  • Strong long-range network for its size
Verdict (comfort/fleet):
  • Slight edge → Iran Air (late 1970s modernization wave)
  • But both were top-tier globally at the time

📊 5. Direct comparison summary​

CategoryIran Air (1970s)PIA (1970s)
Safety / reliability⭐ Very high (top global tier)High
Operational consistencyStrong, highly structuredStrong but more variable
Passenger serviceFormal, high qualityMore personable, highly regarded
Fleet modernity (late 70s)Very strong (A300, 747SP, etc.)Strong (747, DC-10)
Global reputation peakLate 1970sEarly–mid 1970s

🧠 Final takeaway​

In the 1970s:
  • Iran Air = more professionally run, highly reliable, and rapidly modernizing toward global hub-carrier status
  • PIA = more service-oriented, innovative in passenger experience, and already globally respected earlier in the decade

Simple way to remember it:​

  • Iran Air = operational excellence + rapid modernization
  • PIA = hospitality + early global prestige + innovation in passenger experience

Sure, now do Iran Air v Pan Am as our little guest was ranting about. I conceded PIA and Iran AIr had little or no different, guy was going on about "No we are better then Pan Am".....
 

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