US - Pakistan relationship

[Pakistanithinktank]

So hopefully this means our vipers can get further upgraded for PAF

Some YouTubers are floating the idea that Pakistan might get some surplus F-16s or some from Bahrain.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Some YouTubers are floating the idea that Pakistan might get some surplus F-16s or some from Bahrain.

Pakistan just needs trade that is win win for both.

Don't need their leftovers especially after F16s were blocked for use against India.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Yes we Pakistanis should have good relationship with everyone.

Whatever wrong we did to each other, we should forgive each other and move on.
For the betterment for the next generations, and for the betterment for humanity.

Pakistan has mastered the art of friendship without learning. We call America an ally, China a brother, Europe a partner, the Arab world our lifeline yet we refuse to adopt even a single successful model from any of them. Others used their alliances to build institutions, industries, and prosperity. We used ours to collect loans, slogans, and excuses. سب سے دوستی کرو، لیکن ان سے کچھ نہیں سیکھنا this has been our real foreign policy for 75 years.
پاکستان کی ریاست: تعلقات عالمی، سوچ مقامی، نتائج تباہ کن۔
Global friendships, local thinking, disastrous outcomes.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Pakistan has mastered the art of friendship without learning. We call America an ally, China a brother, Europe a partner, the Arab world our lifeline yet we refuse to adopt even a single successful model from any of them. Others used their alliances to build institutions, industries, and prosperity. We used ours to collect loans, slogans, and excuses. سب سے دوستی کرو، لیکن ان سے کچھ نہیں سیکھنا this has been our real foreign policy for 75 years.
پاکستان کی ریاست: تعلقات عالمی، سوچ مقامی، نتائج تباہ کن۔
Global friendships, local thinking, disastrous outcomes.

Pakistan has been in an unoffical embargo since their nuclear tests which is now slowly beginning to unwind.

Not completely their own fault.

The Ukraine-Russia and Pakistan-India conflicts has given everyone new perspective.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Pakistan has been in an unoffical embargo since their nuclear tests which is now slowly beginning to unwind.

Not completely their own fault.

The Pattern: Friendship Without Learning

• USA — Partnership for decades, yet Pakistan never built strong institutions, rule of law, or a merit-based bureaucracy.
• China — “Higher than mountains, deeper than oceans,” but Pakistan ignored China’s discipline, planning, industrialization, and long-term strategy.
• Europe — Trade partners, but Pakistan never adopted their governance standards, transparency, or civic culture.
• Russia — Talks of energy cooperation, but no energy reforms, no infrastructure modernization.
• Iran — Shared border, shared history, but no learning on self-reliance or strategic autonomy.
• Arab states — Billions in bailouts, yet Pakistan never learned fiscal discipline, urban planning, or economic diversification.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

The Pattern: Friendship Without Learning

• USA — Partnership for decades, yet Pakistan never built strong institutions, rule of law, or a merit-based bureaucracy.
• China — “Higher than mountains, deeper than oceans,” but Pakistan ignored China’s discipline, planning, industrialization, and long-term strategy.
• Europe — Trade partners, but Pakistan never adopted their governance standards, transparency, or civic culture.
• Russia — Talks of energy cooperation, but no energy reforms, no infrastructure modernization.
• Iran — Shared border, shared history, but no learning on self-reliance or strategic autonomy.
• Arab states — Billions in bailouts, yet Pakistan never learned fiscal discipline, urban planning, or economic diversification.

Yup we need to fix Pakistan up.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yup we need to fix Pakistan up.

So, I take it you will be emigrating to Pakistan to do your part?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The Pattern: Friendship Without Learning

• USA — Partnership for decades, yet Pakistan never built strong institutions, rule of law, or a merit-based bureaucracy.
• China — “Higher than mountains, deeper than oceans,” but Pakistan ignored China’s discipline, planning, industrialization, and long-term strategy.
• Europe — Trade partners, but Pakistan never adopted their governance standards, transparency, or civic culture.
• Russia — Talks of energy cooperation, but no energy reforms, no infrastructure modernization.
• Iran — Shared border, shared history, but no learning on self-reliance or strategic autonomy.
• Arab states — Billions in bailouts, yet Pakistan never learned fiscal discipline, urban planning, or economic diversification.

Is it not true the Brits gave you everything you needed to achieve the above?

 

[Trailer23]

Some YouTubers are floating the idea that Pakistan might get some surplus F-16s or some from Bahrain.

Yes one idiot on YouTube.

I already left a comment on his Channel about my thoughts.

Bus apni duqaan challa nay kay leya koi bhee b.s chalti hai for these people.

Obviously, views = USD $$$

Bahrain ke aaj-kal kis kay saat bohot achi yaari hai...?

Why would they ever give us their old Vipers, which I may add aren't really that old.

Block 40's aren't exactly like the European F-16's that have been operated by Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium etc.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

So, I take it you will be emigrating to Pakistan to do your part?

There are other ways to help Pakistan, like by sending money. I do not need to physically be in Pakistan.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

There are other ways to help Pakistan, like by sending money. I do not need to physically be in Pakistan.

How noble. Pay someone else to do what you won't.

 

[Watandar]

Is it not true the Brits gave you everything you needed to achieve the above?

Nope. The lands that are now Pakistan were peripheral to British India and wholly un-developed. There were a grand total of two universities in what is now Pakistan at the time of independence and a few factories here and there.

The worst thing the British left behind was a colonial army and bureaucracy who quickly filled the vacuum after the British departure in 1947 and effectively re-colonized the country. They remain , behind the civilian puppets, the rulers of the land.

This isn't the thread topic but I wanted to answer your question.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

How noble. Pay someone else to do what you won't.

I do not need your stupid opinion on how I should help Pakistan. I will help Pakistan to the best of my ability. Your viewpoint is not required.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I do not need your stupid opinion on how I should help Pakistan. I will help Pakistan to the best of my ability. Your viewpoint is not required.

Must you always respond with an ad hominum attack? You have a well-established track record of it.

For someone who claims, and has posted, how intelligent you are, such petty insults leave many to think otherwise.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Must you always respond with an ad hominum attack? You have a well-established track record of it.

For someone who claims, and has posted, how intelligent you are, such petty insults leave many to think otherwise.

Well...I will help Pakistan in the appropriate ways, I do not need to be physically in Pakistan to help it. I can send money, food, other equipment to Pakistan to help the locals.

I can fund a hospital or building a school. I don't need to put brick by brick in a building in Pakistan in order to help it you know !