Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BananaRepublic]

Oh, as to the raging debate about Iran and West vs Iran and China: Why can't Iran follow the Pakistani model. Despite not much to offer in terms of economy, Pakistan has excellent relations with both China and America. Why should there be a zero-sum game? Also, while the West has been ascendant, it is not be noted that nothing lasts forever; a quick look at human history would you about the rise and fall of civilizations and empires. Today's China has a lot to offer in many ways and I think is rising and rising.

Iran should take what it can from wherever it comes from. Play the long, patient strategic game like Pakistan does so brilliantly.

Not possible because Pakistan doesn’t have oil or is a threat to the Zios.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I have no idea why we should meet in Switzerland anyway. What's wrong with Islamabad or Oman? Both of these places are safer for our delegation than Switzerland, which requires us to cross multiple European airspaces.

Only thing that would explain it is they think Oman and Islamabad aren’t bug proof from Saudis and GCC.

 

[ShapurII]

Only thing that would explain it is they think Oman and Islamabad aren’t bug proof from Saudis and GCC.

But is Switzerland bug proof from the Americans? I don't think so.

 

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

Not possible because Pakistan doesn’t have oil or is a threat to the Zios.

But Pakistan is the only Muslim state with nukes and it has 260 million people with higher fertility rate than both Iran and Turkey. Also, from my experience, percentage wise, more Pakistanis are practicing Muslims compared to Iran or Turkey.

On paper, if Pakistan turns against America, Pakistan can be a far greater threat to Israel than Iran, because of its population, nukes, and its distance from Israel. Israeli Air Force won't be able to bomb Pakistan due to the distance.

 

[BananaRepublic]

But is Switzerland bug proof from the Americans? I don't think so.

No where is safe from US. So that’s not a factor.

But Switzerland is still safer than Oman and Islamabad.

Swiss hold a lot of secrets - so US deep state tends to fear the Swiss.

 

[Meengla]

Whole media especially western media is under US / Israel payroll and they are creating an illusion that USA being putting down Israel and on the other hand Israel is given freehand to capture Lebanon while Iran is being kept away along with other powerful Muslim countries away with the stick and carrot formula by Iran - USA deal, I bet you belkieve it not this is a part of game to gain goal of greater Israel.

I have been hearing such theories from the Gaza Pier being a conduit to expel 2 million Gazans to Robert Kagan's post about the debacle the Americans have faced. Conspiracy theories. Per some here, Kagan's post was to incite the Trump admin to double down on attacking Iran. So weird considering it is the planners in the Pentagon who have been giving President Trump options and the options don't look good. No analyst or journalist could change the ground realities.

I still don’t understand the fascination with working at 80years old when you are worth millions but that is just me I guess.

"Power is the most potent Aphrodisiac". Don't remember which movie was it!

 

[Jagga Badmash]

I have been hearing such theories from the Gaza Pier being a conduit to expel 2 million Gazans to Robert Kagan's post about the debacle the Americans have faced. Conspiracy theories. Per some here, Kagan's post was to incite the Trump admin to double down on attacking Iran. So weird considering it is the planners in the Pentagon who have been giving President Trump options and the options don't look good. No analyst or journalist could change the ground realities.

I don't know if something happen God Forbid what Iranians would think about Pakistan since common Iranian would blame Pakistan that you are the mediator anyways all blame should go to the Iranian decision makers why the hell they agreed for Switzerland.

 

[BananaRepublic]

But Pakistan is the only Muslim state with nukes and it has 260 million people with higher fertility rate than both Iran and Turkey. Also, from my experience, percentage wise, more Pakistanis are practicing Muslims compared to Iran or Turkey.

On paper, if Pakistan turns against America, Pakistan can be a far greater threat to Israel than Iran, because of its population, nukes, and its distance from Israel. Israeli Air Force won't be able to bomb Pakistan due to the distance.

Pakistan cannot have both India and US as enemies. Won’t survive the economic onslaught.

US knows that.

And Pakistani behaviours since its inception proves it.

It’s also one of the reasons for east and west Pakistan going their separate ways. But that’s for another thread.

 

[Meengla]

I don't know if something happen God Forbid what Iranians would think about Pakistan since common Iranian would blame Pakistan that you are the mediator anyways all blame should go to the Iranian decision makers why the hell they agreed for Switzerland.

Switzerland is for logistical reasons. Period!

 

[BananaRepublic]

Pakistan is the only country I am not boasting but for now it is the reality that Israel would not attack or do anything against our guests since Jews are the most coward race on this planet earth and they fear Pakistan would send them to hell even with only one nuclear strike forever.

Again choosing Switzerland over Pakistan is a bad bad bad choice.

Even not direct killing but like Yasser Arafat they poisoned him with some radioactive dose and he died slowly, as per his wife claim traces of radioactive material found in his tooth brush.

Iran is not reliant on any one figure.

Assassinations ISNT going to work especially since US is desperate for a deal.

 

[Jagga Badmash]

Switzerland is for logistical reasons. Period!

Pakistan is safer or nearest than Switzerland? Anyways finger crossed but they in danger land, remember what USA did when Israel strikes and kill Iranian officials in Qatar?

 

[Persian Gulf]

1 IDF terrorist killed and 13 IDF terrorists injured (2 severely injured) yesterday

in Israel's latest failed attempt to conquer the Ali al Taher hill and Hezbollah's underground base there

they will probably try again tonight, IDF confirmed they consider the hill to be part of their self declared 'security zone'

 

[FIsa]

I have a simple theory on why Switzerland was chosen . US was unable to guarantee against an Israeli espionage attack on Iranians on Pakistani soil. Pakistan must have communicated a direct response to Israel in return . This would have escalated the conflict which would have been perfect for Nethanyahu and as a result would have become a highly probable scenario for Israel to pursue .

Pakistan must have foreseen that along with Iran and US and chose Switzerland . Even if Israeli espionage were to be unsuccessful, it would have been opening up an unnecessary dimension .

Switzerland is simple , Israel does something there , they lose political capital - or whatever is left of it .

 

[BananaRepublic]

1 IDF terrorist killed and 13 IDF terrorists injured (2 severely injured) yesterday

in Israel's latest failed attempt to conquer the Ali al Taher hill and Hezbollah's underground base there

they will probably try again tonight, IDF confirmed they consider the hill to be part of their self declared 'security zone'

This is really good.

If Hezbollah can kill and maim even small number of terrorists - serving in IDF as a tourism gig becomes unviable.

Will also drive opposition against conscription.

Israel cannot survive without conscription.