Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Desprado123]

I agree with your “They are Gunda and Thug or robbery kind of mentality and you only deal with these kind of people with brute force.” but I don’t think there is any military solution to this problem just like we will never recover Kashmir by force …. Last 80 years of our history proves that …

Because of these military action India is not able to strike Pakistan. Indian in day light murdered a Canadian citizen than just what they could have done in Pakistan. Hate has no solution or cure simple as that. They want us to perish and our reponse would given by our army.

 

[Watandar]

I have never doubted our Jawan’s skills and will power to fight … we will never lose any war because Indians over come us physically or militarily…. It’s our GHQ that buckles under one phone call .


This is what worries me …. one of the highest ranking PAF officer who recently retired and was visiting USA had a sit down dinner with me and my best friend who is also ex PAF.

Few things he mentioned without me pushing him hard was that Su30s are not looked as any threat in PAF …. Rafael is a beast we need to be careful with and our air defence did not perform as expected .

Being a fighter pilot himself he was glowing when talking about our pilots performance but was very very concerned about saturated attack by super or hypersonic missiles Indians have in abundance and too few and expensive for us .

Although a bit off-topic, what is with all these retired PAF people emigrating to Toronto ? Is it just herd-mentality ? They are present in un-usually large numbers in that metro. Mostly officer-class.

 

[PK781]

Phir se kuch hogaya kiya ? Thread hot chal raha hai ? Another false flag ?

kuch nahi, just we're suffering (along with the entire world) the after-affects of showing RESTRAINT to the enemy.

 

[PK781]

Although a bit off-topic, what is with all these retired PAF people emigrating to Toronto ? Is it just herd-mentality ? They are present in un-usually large numbers in that metro. Mostly officer-class.

in their infinite "wisdom" they sure picked the most-wrong country on the planet to migrate to(talking about economy wise, and how things are).
Although I do find that they seriously cannot be qualified under the normal immigration programs........so i have a feeling its all money-based (buying the IMM visas thru investment). But its not really worth it these days, they'd be better off migrating to America, or perhaps Australia.

Canada has been flushed by liberal trudeau and liberal policies.

 

[PK781]

Here is a serious matter.

yeah that, and the Chenab water being stopped and diverted.......while our own are sleeping, will it be too late when they wake up?
Water shortages will be real in some time and shit will hit the fan soon when water dries up. India is belligerent and doesnt seem to care, because our side keeps showing that fucking restraints.

any other country in our position would've sent them back 100 yrs and made sure to crush their economy.....but here we are.....

 

[Jango007]

in their infinite "wisdom" they sure picked the most-wrong country on the planet to migrate to(talking about economy wise, and how things are).
Although I do find that they seriously cannot be qualified under the normal immigration programs........so i have a feeling its all money-based (buying the IMM visas thru investment). But its not really worth it these days, they'd be better off migrating to America, or perhaps Australia.

Canada has been flushed by liberal trudeau and liberal policies.

I have met more in Newyork city ….. deep inside I believe they prefer Canada because of less restrictive immigration rules and I know some very high ranking retd who are here on a super visa and come and go . Mostly they are here because kids are settled here .

In Newyork most are settled for a very long time and in general have a far more positive view of the USA than later retd officers who do not seem to be in love with the USA .

Air Marshal Hakim was in Ottawa when I met him long time back .

Two air chiefs have their kids in Canada . One’s kids I am close to .

Canada in general is far far safer and relaxed country than the USA . Having lived on / off in the USA and Canada for 27 years I can tell you this for sure .

 

[Watandar]

I have met more in Newyork city ….. deep inside I believe they prefer Canada because of less restrictive immigration rules and I know some very high ranking retd who are here on a super visa and come and go . Mostly they are here because kids are settled here .

In Newyork most are settled for a very long time and in general have a far more positive view of the USA than later retd officers who do not seem to be in love with the USA .

Air Marshal Hakim was in Ottawa when I met him long time back .

Two air chiefs have their kids in Canada . One’s kids I am close to .

Canada in general is far far safer and relaxed country than the USA . Having lived on / off in the USA and Canada for 27 years I can tell you this for sure .

The absolute top people in Pakistan , from military to bureaucracy to judiciary to business to politics, all have their children and financial assets abroad, primarily in the West. That pattern doesn't bode well for the country's future.

 

[PK781]

The absolute top people in Pakistan , from military to bureaucracy to judiciary to business to politics, all have their children and financial assets abroad, primarily in the West. That pattern doesn't bode well for the country's future.

just like what happened in dubai, those financial assets in the west will soon turn to dust and lost. Punishment for deserting Pakistan.....coming soon......all the effort will have been in vain....

 

[Waz]

The absolute top people in Pakistan , from military to bureaucracy to judiciary to business to politics, all have their children and financial assets abroad, primarily in the West. That pattern doesn't bode well for the country's future.

Imagine wanting to serve your country, putting your life on the line and not wanting to retire there.
I can't ever recall meeting the military class of another nation here or any other western state I have visited aside their own people who have retired.

 

[PakistanLVR]

I am proud that Pakistan is nuclear and we have too many flaws as well. But never trust india that It will ever follow any international law. They will and world's knows Pakistan is right. India entire foreign policy is based on Pakistan hate, bully and insult other nation. India has openly killed on day light an Canadian national than what do you expect from country. God Forbid if Pakistan did not had any nuke than these Indian would already have nuke north side of Pakistan and made 100s of bollywood movie.

At least now India knows deeply well that stopping Pakistan share water will have dangerous consequnces.

They’ve come to the conclusion that Pakistan has to go one way or another before they can realize their greater India and regional hegemon status to cement. This much has been decided at the form of their government. We can’t differentiate between the congress part and the Hindutva subhumans. They are united in their goals

 

[PakistanLVR]

just like what happened in dubai, those financial assets in the west will soon turn to dust and lost. Punishment for deserting Pakistan.....coming soon......all the effort will have been in vain....

Good! F Em! And their kids too. Bunch of non Muslims ruling over Muslims and stealing their resources.

I took this daughter of a retired army colonel out once. Turns out the dad served twice in the ISI.
I won’t share the specifics.
She won a full scholarship to an Ivy League. Then went to a medical school where she was able to get an interest free loan $200k through some Fauji scheme.
There was a degree of 304 with her but she acted pious which sound much like BS to me given her behavior and demeanor. I want to see them burn to the ground.

 

[Oscar]

But, PAF and everyone is "glad" that the IAF did make the idiot mistake, right?

The MKI is still a very dangerous aircraft and a high value threat. It is also fully owned by India and they can manufacture most of its spares barring the engines and modify it to their heart's content.

However, the known issues with the platform even after 20 years of operation with the IAF highlight why it was always going to be this white elephant.
The idiocy isnt the MKI specifically but the overall systemic issues in procurement and systems integration they have.