Pakistan is getting dry

I will suggest you read it properly.

Just to hint that equitable and reasonable utilization of shared water resources is the main motive, as of now, Pakistan is getting most of the water shares.

even detailed data, justification, and remediation plans regarding water usage and wastage, since factors such as population, existing use, geography, climate, and economic needs are taken into consideration.

At present, Pakistan is not accountable for wasting waters; there is no proper water management. These things will not work under

Overall, Pakistan will lose bargaining power for more water. Even at present, Pakistan receives roughly 80%; the percentage will likely shrink if India puts things to better utilization of waters for local people.

At present, Pakistan is just enjoying the old treaty, but it would not be working since the climate is changing and Pakistan usually wastes most of the waters.

I never said the water supply should be stopped, but I am against the incompetence of successive Pakistani governments over the past 50 years. They have largely relied on blaming others instead of improving water management and building adequate dams and storage infrastructure. Now the world is starting to face the water crises, due to climate change, but it still just relies on blaming.
You still haven't read it. You still don't know what the UN Resolution entails and how it is different from the IWT and that one facilitates the other without being duplicative.

As for your CONSTANT whining that Pakistan gets greater share - that is precisely because of the greater floodplain volume and utility that Pakistan avails. Similarly, water wastage or inefficiency by Pakistan is not actually a concern of Hindustan. H
This is a faux concern. We're not here any more to work together with your vile nation who punitively refuses to share hydrology data that itself would save lives and livelihoods. We're here now to take what is ours.
 
Sure.. or you can wait for that to happen and see where that takes you.

P.S. It's a non binding UN resolution.

It is a resolution India is in defiance of, so nothing to do with Government of Pakistan as you stated, just correcting you with facts.
 
Such treaties do not hold much value.

Today, if India says it is cancelling the treaty, what can the World Bank do at most? Almost nothing.

As I said earlier, such matters mainly depend on the relationship between countries. For example, India and China do not have a similar water-sharing treaty.

Yes, there is the UN Watercourses Convention. If it were to apply, Pakistan would have to provide detailed data, justification, and remediation plans regarding water usage and wastage, since factors such as population, existing use, geography, climate, and economic needs are taken into consideration.

It does not require countries to follow a rigid or one-sided framework and share water blindly. Instead, it emphasizes reasonable and equitable use based on multiple factors.

They may hold no value, but Pakistan will then be perfectly within its rights to implement it by force
 
You still haven't read it. You still don't know what the UN Resolution entails and how it is different from the IWT and that one facilitates the other without being duplicative.

As for your CONSTANT whining that Pakistan gets greater share - that is precisely because of the greater floodplain volume and utility that Pakistan avails. Similarly, water wastage or inefficiency by Pakistan is not actually a concern of Hindustan. H
This is a faux concern. We're not here any more to work together with your vile nation who punitively refuses to share hydrology data that itself would save lives and livelihoods. We're here now to take what is ours.

Just for your reference, there is no such UN resolution for water. There are a few:

1. UN Watercourses Convention (1997)

  • Global framework for international rivers.
  • Principles: equitable use, no significant harm, cooperation.
  • India and Pakistan are not parties.
2. UNECE Water Convention (1992)
  • Full name: Convention on the Protection and Use of Transboundary Watercourses and International Lakes.
  • Originally for Europe, now open to all UN member states.
  • Promotes cooperation on shared waters.
  • Neither India nor Pakistan is currently a party.
3. Helsinki Rules (1966)
  • Developed by the International Law Association.
  • Influential but not a treaty and not legally binding.
  • Introduced the concept of "equitable utilization."
4. Berlin Rules (2004)
  • Updated version of the Helsinki Rules.
  • Also not a treaty and not legally binding.

Overall, I would say there is no treaty that can force India to share water beyond its obligations. A similar situation exists between India and China, as both countries do not have a water-sharing treaty.

There are also many rivers that flow through multiple countries without such treaties.

This is one reason Pakistan's war threats are empty, because there is no international mechanism that can help it force a different water-sharing arrangement.

Even today if India scrapped IWT treaty, UN or world bank cant do much.
 
It is a resolution India is in defiance of, so nothing to do with Government of Pakistan as you stated, just correcting you with facts.

Firstly it is a non obligatory recommendation and not a binding settlement.

Secondly Pakistan is in defiance of it and not India..for the very fisrt phase of this recommendation requires Pakistan to remove all its soldiers and citizens from entire Jammu and Kashmir including GB and AJK.

Which Pakistan has never done in last 76 years.
 
Firstly it is a non obligatory recommendation and not a binding settlement.

Secondly Pakistan is in defiance of it and not India..for the very fisrt phase of this recommendation requires Pakistan to remove all its soldiers and citizens from entire Jammu and Kashmir including GB and AJK.

Which Pakistan has never done in last 76 years.

Please stop posting misinfo. It os fair enough debating you and we are used to Indians twisting the truth, but outright lies serve no purpose.

Simply put and to paraphrase a former Pak PM. If India attempts to deny water to Pakistani men, women and children "We will not think about retaliating, we will retaliate".

Last 2 occasions proved Pakistan's resolve, we are keen to make it a hattrick here....
 
Just for your reference, there is no such UN resolution for water. There are a few:

1. UN Watercourses Convention (1997)

  • Global framework for international rivers.
  • Principles: equitable use, no significant harm, cooperation.
  • India and Pakistan are not parties.
2. UNECE Water Convention (1992)
  • Full name: Convention on the Protection and Use of Transboundary Watercourses and International Lakes.
  • Originally for Europe, now open to all UN member states.
  • Promotes cooperation on shared waters.
  • Neither India nor Pakistan is currently a party.
3. Helsinki Rules (1966)
  • Developed by the International Law Association.
  • Influential but not a treaty and not legally binding.
  • Introduced the concept of "equitable utilization."
4. Berlin Rules (2004)
  • Updated version of the Helsinki Rules.
  • Also not a treaty and not legally binding.

Overall, I would say there is no treaty that can force India to share water beyond its obligations. A similar situation exists between India and China, as both countries do not have a water-sharing treaty.

There are also many rivers that flow through multiple countries without such treaties.

This is one reason Pakistan's war threats are empty, because there is no international mechanism that can help it force a different water-sharing arrangement.

Even today if India scrapped IWT treaty, UN or world bank cant do much.


And how is this relevant?

If Pakistan and India were to be signatories, Delhi would already be in de facto breach and it would not alter Delhi's hostility towards Pakistani civilians. Indeed, the Convention in question (the first one you cited) is not there to "override" the IWT, as I have already stated. It is a framework around which any treaty may be constructed. In this case, Delhi has broken a simple bilateral treaty between nation states.

But this should come as no surprise to Pakistan, as water has always been a weapon of choice for Hindustan.

"In December 1947, East Punjab (India) and West Punjab (Pakistan) concluded a Standstill Agreement to continue the pre-partition allocation of the Indus waters until March 31, 1948. On April 1, 1948, the date of expiry of the agreement, East Punjab completely cut off the supply of water to West Punjab. Though the flow of water was restored on April 30, 1948, this incident marked the beginning of international conflict over the Indus River. Eugene Black, the erstwhile President of the World Bank, offered the offices of the Bank to both the countries so they could arrive at a mutually acceptable arrangement.

The Indus Mediations began in 1952 at the Bank’s headquarters in Washington D.C. In 1954, owing to political tension, the Bank abandoned the strategy of integrated development of the river by India and Pakistan. It put forth an alternate proposal to reserve the three rivers lying to the West (Indus, Jhelum and Chenab) for the exclusive consumptive use of Pakistan and the three river lying to the East (Ravi, Beas and Sutlej) for the exclusive consumptive use of India.

Ultimately, the Government of India, the Government of Pakistan and the World Bank signed the IWT on September 19, 1960."


We perhaps never really noticed Hindustani hostility towards our civilians under Congress because of their perpetual state of pretence - it's vile and uncivilised behaviour when one considers it duly. Modi, the useful idiot that he is, states clearly he wishes harm upon civilians. No problem. We will harm back.
 
Yes, this is the crux of the matter, which you gloss over as "scrapping", as though the act itself is benign or mutual. Call it what it is - "breach of contract".

F**k these genocidal MoFo's. Seems like the lessons of 2019 and 2025 still not been learnt.

Pakistan will just sit back and let them deny us water. Nah, if Pak children start dying due to Indian actions, we will do what we did last year and in 2019, we will hit the back threefold.
 

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