Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Starlord]

I wonder why Qatar is not announcing joining the Pak-KSA pact ?

 

[maxpane]

except uae everyother gulf country would join this pact after iran usa deal

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

What are we discussing here for past 2 weeks ?

1. This deal is bad for Pakistan.
2. Pakistan was played for peanuts.
3. Pakistan should ask KSA to fund J-35 purchase.
4. we should call back out troops from KSA and dont be a part of this mess.
5. Now Israel is in our range.

Nothing new, nothing substantial, nothing well-known. Just speculations and imaginary scenarios. This thread should be banned till there is something new and meaningful in this regard.

That is not fault of the forum members. No-one has seen the text of this MoU, hence we can only speculate.

The Defence Pact is and will remain ambiguous, and ambiguity is it's strength.

Making details public will lose its value.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I don't understand this block of Pakistan-Saudi Arabia-Egypy-Turkiye, or the so called "R4".

They are very active. What exactly is it's purpose? Are they preparing some sort of security mechanism that will cover all of West Asia including Pakistan?

Meeting No.	Date	City	Country	Notes
1st Quadrilateral Meeting	20 March 2026	Riyadh	Saudi Arabia	First Pakistan–Saudi Arabia–Egypt–Türkiye quadrilateral foreign ministers’ meeting.
2nd Quadrilateral Meeting	29 March 2026	Islamabad	Pakistan	Hosted by Pakistan; focused on regional developments and diplomatic coordination.
3rd Quadrilateral Meeting	17 April 2026	Antalya	Türkiye	Held on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomacy Forum 2026.
4th Quadrilateral Meeting	21 June 2026	Cairo	Egypt	Hosted by Egypt; latest meeting of the quadrilateral mechanism.

 

[Blueishere]

I don't understand this block of Pakistan-Saudi Arabia-Egypy-Turkiye, or the so called "R4".

They are very active. What exactly is it's purpose? Are they preparing some sort of security mechanism that will cover all of West Asia including Pakistan?

Meeting No.	Date	City	Country	Notes
1st Quadrilateral Meeting	20 March 2026	Riyadh	Saudi Arabia	First Pakistan–Saudi Arabia–Egypt–Türkiye quadrilateral foreign ministers’ meeting.
2nd Quadrilateral Meeting	29 March 2026	Islamabad	Pakistan	Hosted by Pakistan; focused on regional developments and diplomatic coordination.
3rd Quadrilateral Meeting	17 April 2026	Antalya	Türkiye	Held on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomacy Forum 2026.
4th Quadrilateral Meeting	21 June 2026	Cairo	Egypt	Hosted by Egypt; latest meeting of the quadrilateral mechanism.

What exactly will Egypt contribute besides being American-Israel lapdog?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Egypts peace deal with Israel means it cannot join any multilateral defence treaty as the terms of its own peace treaty with Israel means it cannot engage in military operations against Israel.

Egypt is best ignored?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

What exactly will Egypt contribute besides being American-Israel lapdog?

Let's not say that about the Egyptians. Every country has its own limits and challenges.

The nation has a population of around 108 million people, and it's fairly stable compared to the nations in its surroundings.

 

[FuturePAF]

Egypts peace deal with Israel means it cannot join any multilateral defence treaty as the terms of its own peace treaty with Israel means it cannot engage in military operations against Israel.

Egypt is best ignored?

Egypt could be well placed to help stabilize Libya and Sudan, after a Saudi brokered peace agreement would provide a framework and funding. Egyptian army troops and naval vessels could cover large parts of both nations, and open each country up for a return to humanitarian rehabilitation and economic development. Sudan is/was known as a bread basket and having Sudan back up and producing food can help keep cost of living under control in Egypt, as well as have a strong ally in dealing with anything Ethiopia does with the Nile’s water. Securing Libya could benefit Egypt with controlling militant and smuggler groups that operate from there, as well as open up a country in need of redevelopment and a place for Egyptian labor to go, in exchange for Libyan oil/gas. Libya use to employ 2 million Egyptian laborers, prior to the civil war.

A stable Sudan and an expanded railway network from Egypt to Sudan opens up the possibility of rail extensions into the Central African Republic and beyond, opening up mining and mine processing value added work for Egyptians and Sudanese, on the way to European markets via the port of Alexandria, or Asian markets via Port Sudan.

Saudi investors would then have intermediate materials to supply the upper end industrial production in their country, for domestic use and for export, in order to diversify their economy. Probably also spread around industrial parks to places like Yemen, to keep that country stable and friendly to Saudi Arabia.

 

[RealNapster]

The Defence Pact is and will remain ambiguous, and ambiguity is it's strength.

Making details public will lose its value.

I just don't want KSA to drag us to ICJ incase it is attacked and we don't show up and suddenly we come to know that there was a clause that if KSA is attacked and Pakistan didn't come to help, Pakistan will pay the damages... Because Pakistan is fcukedup by many of such clauses.