Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Goenitz]

it was our war not matter how u put it

yes, it was in our interests to weigh in on that war. I was just pointing out the whitewash that all Afghans are savage or sub-human.
We cannot win through Soviet or US-style bombing and surge. We can win in our way like before.
If previous Mujahideen were sensible (which they weren't), but current IEA/TTA are savage and irrational, then we can wait for the next replacement who can be talked with. We lack a strategy in this case and just shout for tactics like bombing, etc. Not realising that in such a way, even Kabul cannot negotiate with us in future as there will be a backlash there.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

yes, it was in our interests to weigh in on that war. I was just pointing out the whitewash that all Afghans are savage or sub-human.
We cannot win through Soviet or US-style bombing and surge. We can win in our way like before.
If previous Mujahideen were sensible (which they weren't), but current IEA/TTA are savage and irrational, then we can wait for the next replacement who can be talked with. We lack a strategy in this case and just shout for tactics like bombing, etc. Not realising that in such a way, even Kabul cannot negotiate with us in future as there will be a backlash there.

You know nothing about Afghanistan clearly just stop talking, there's not going to be any magical group that arises which is "rational".

Afghanistan is not a typical country and the psychee works entirely differenty.

It's only with extreme escalation and casualities there can be a possibility for a mutual truce, before that theyll continue to try and attack you because thats all the entire societys heart desires, once they realise its not sustainable theyll change course, but that requires military action, not a naive belief a random peace activist group will emerge

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Oh yes, but these people always give me the ichy feeling, living in America/Canada/UK but no one will ever move to Afghanistan, but cheer for Afghan Taliban and their barbarism against Women, and treating every non Pushtoon like trash. Like they are incapable of seeing Taliban's fault and racism and destructive tendency.

These SAME people are ALWAYS overly critical of Pakistan and Pakistani people yet worship the most inferior and barbaric race on the planet, the afghandus.

 

[Goenitz]

Afghanistan has long been a quagmire. Power has historically been decentralised, with different regions and groups asserting influence at different times. At some points, areas like Mazar-i-Sharif or Panjshir have aligned, while other regions like Herat or Kandahar have followed their own paths. Kabul has often been a focal point of authority, but not always a decisive one.

Like a pack of wolves (wetsern connotation), Afghans attack an outsider, and later everyone keeps fighting to be the Alpha to control the pack. Like wolves, they need spanking, herding and hierarchy to behave rationally. Unless they grow out of it to become a coherent society.

No one can control Afghanistan, even the Afghans themselves. The man is product of its environment. Afghanistan's geography dictates that it cannot be controlled by a center.
75% of the country is mountainous, and urban centers are far away from each other. Each center has its own ethnicity, group and militia.

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If you have said something different from that, then do let me know.

You know nothing about Afghanistan clearly just stop talking, there's not going to be any magical group that arises which is "rational".

Afghanistan is not a typical country and the psychee works entirely differenty.

It's only with extreme escalation and casualities there can be a possibility for a mutual truce, before that theyll continue to try and attack you because thats all the entire societys heart desires, once they realise its not sustainable theyll change course, but that requires military action, not a naive belief a random peace activist group will emerge

I was addressing the whitewashing thing and only the airstrikes option there.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You know nothing about Afghanistan clearly just stop talking, there's not going to be any magical group that arises which is "rational".

Afghanistan is not a typical country and the psychee works entirely differenty.

It's only with extreme escalation and casualities there can be a possibility for a mutual truce, before that theyll continue to try and attack you because thats all the entire societys heart desires, once they realise its not sustainable theyll change course, but that requires military action, not a naive belief a random peace activist group will emerge

There is a rumour that Pakistan has had thermonuclear/hydrogen bomb technology since May 2011:

Pakistan Doubling Rate of Making Nuclear Weapons: Time for Pakistan to Reverse Course | ISIS Reports | Institute For Science And International Security

isis-online.org

Wouldn't it be beautiful if we could test them in the afghandus.

 

[RealNapster]

Afghanistan might be the only country that has offer nothing to the world except suicide bombings, even Syrian starting to get better but this sh!t hole and unfortunately our KPK which is also a hell hole is stuck in this idotic mindset, keep making babies and sending to fight some enemy and die, what a pathetic state of existance.

Only if we could pickup KPK and put in on spot of punjab and bring punjab to the afghanistan border and then asked FC and army to stay this much easy and lean on afghan border.

And then I ask you hoor ki haal nay lehndy dy ?

 

[hussain0216]

Some of you need to calm your tits, Pakistan isn't going anywhere

We are a nation of 250 million, and we will continue to survive and build

Our biggest strength is supposed to be out people, it's our biggest weakness, the ethnocentrism, the irrationality, overly emotional etc


Pakistan has multiple enemies, the Hindus, the Afghans, the Zionists, white extremists etc
And we have to deal with these enemies and prepare
We are making the alliances with multiple countries, to do this

We are preparing our military to fight the wars that are coming


But let's be clear, it is our burden that we have to live next to these worthless Hindus and the horrendous afghans

The Hindus we can keep at distance with our Military

But the Afghans animals will continue to inflict chaos, because of KP and ethnic kinship with the pashtuns in KP, a significant minority have soft spot for them

We have to accept this and accept that we will have continued low level conflict,, MAYBE FOREVER

Now obviously no one wants this,, but as long as their is pashtunism their will be conflict
THEY want to occupy Pakistani land, we want nothing from Afghanistan

The fault is Afghan,,
Accept that we will have days when the Afghans will get through and attack sometimes
But in response make sure Pakistan uses it's greater capabilities to make the life of afghans UNBEARABLE

Keep the border closed
Harass and hunt down Afghans across our cities and country
Make sure afghans can't access education or work
Confiscate businesses and homes from afghans in Pakistan illegally or with illegally obtained I.D cards
Punish their population for their crimes

And keep the hunt going with IBOs and hits inside Afghanistan

Short of a full scale war that's all you can do

Keep going and destroy the lives of Afghans

 

[Distant_Observer]

The solution to the Afghan problem:

• Remove all legal and illegal Afghans from Pakistan including any born in Pakistan.
• Regime change of KP and declare governer rule. Door to door census.
• Pull back FC and move in regular infantry to the border and heavily militarize.
• Bomb Kandahar and Kabul until there is no electricity or running water. Drop bunker busters on the tora bora cave complex.

There can be no open border in peacetime or war. There should be zero movement and inflow of afghans in Pakistan until their society evolves and becomes enlightened enough to become civilized. Border remains closed permanently.

 

[reader2026]

The biggest cause is considerable sympathy in KPK. I wont express my deepest views as I love Pakistan as is, but KPK may not be a net positive.

 

[hussain0216]

The biggest cause is considerable sympathy in KPK. I wont express my deepest views as I love Pakistan as is, but KPK may not be a net positive.

You can't have big chunks of your population making excuses and spreading propaganda against your own country for the sake of a enemy


At the moment, the Afghans will commit terrorism in Pakistan and you will be angry about this act

And you will have people like buffoons spout the usual jernail jernail, Fatima Jinnah, lumber 1, etc etc
And the in mix you forget your country has been attacked by a enemy and you need to respond

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You can't have big chunks of your population making excuses and spreading propaganda against your own country for the sake of a enemy


At the moment, the Afghans will commit terrorism in Pakistan and you will be angry about this act

And you will have people like buffoons spout the usual jernail jernail, Fatima Jinnah, lumber 1, etc etc
And the in mix you forget your country has been attacked by a enemy and you need to respond

If ANYONE, ANYWHERE in Pakistan feels ANY sympathy or connection to the afghandus, taliban or terrorist scum, then FEEL free to leave Pakistan and move to afghandustan and PLEASE leave us in peace. You can F**K OFFand live in your utopia in afghandustan.

I've noticed that 5 Pillars uk, the media platform that is supposed to promote unity amongst ALL Muslims is supporting the afghandu taliban who is aligned with the hindutva indians, against Pakistan. Even though I'm a uk Pakistani Muslim, there seems to be a lot of uk Muslims supporting the afghandu taliban even though they are aligned with the extremist Islamaphobic hindutva indians. 5 pillars uk and their supporters can go and F**K their kuffar selves.

 

[reader2026]

You can't have big chunks of your population making excuses and spreading propaganda against your own country for the sake of a enemy


At the moment, the Afghans will commit terrorism in Pakistan and you will be angry about this act

And you will have people like buffoons spout the usual jernail jernail, Fatima Jinnah, lumber 1, etc etc
And the in mix you forget your country has been attacked by a enemy and you need to

That 5th colomn is essentially one party and it's squad of fanboys. Pakistan should declare Ex FATA a "military zone" and fast track their meeting with God.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

The biggest cause is considerable sympathy in KPK. I wont express my deepest views as I love Pakistan as is, but KPK may not be a net positive.

It hurts people's feelings to talk about the cross-over between Taliban's violence and Pashtun nationalism/tribalism. They know its true but they cry wolf.

PTI is just the top layer, the bottom layer that allows Taliban penetration into Pakistan is Pashtun tribalist nationalism.

Especially amongst the ex-FATA belt. And the Northern Balochistan belt.

 

[muz]

If ANYONE, ANYWHERE in Pakistan feels ANY sympathy or connection to the afghandus, taliban or terrorist scum, then FEEL free to leave Pakistan and move to afghandustan and PLEASE leave us in peace. You can F**K OFFand live in your utopia in afghandustan.

I've noticed that 5 Pillars uk, the media platform that is supposed to promote unity amongst ALL Muslims is supporting the afghandu taliban who is aligned with the hindutva indians, against Pakistan. Even though I'm a uk Pakistani Muslim, there seems to be a lot of uk Muslims supporting the afghandu taliban even though they are aligned with the extremist Islamaphobic hindutva indians. 5 pillars uk and their supporters can go and F**K their kuffar selves.

Afghans are clear in their goals and mindset
Lumber 1 is not clear in their goals and mindset sit around twiddling their thumbs looks for scapegoats for their own failuers i.e India and afghanistan (of course they will cause they are our enemies) and do half ass ops
Also one last thing take out kidnap or forces to shut down credible news sites our own journalists in this conflict area cause it hurts someones ego (Khorasan Diary) and leave the space open for fake news afghani TTA and Indian fake news engagement farming osint accounts

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

It hurts people's feelings to talk about the cross-over between Taliban's violence and Pashtun nationalism/tribalism. They know its true but they cry wolf.

PTI is just the top layer, the bottom layer that allows Taliban penetration into Pakistan is Pashtun tribalist nationalism.

Especially amongst the ex-FATA belt. And the Northern Balochistan belt.

If we defeated Taliban today, an explicitly ethnic militia would replace it like the BLA. Its not nearly as much about religion as it is their ethnicity.